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[*] posted on 12-26-2014 at 01:26 PM


One more junkie dealer dead. Good ridden. Bravo to the CBP
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[*] posted on 12-26-2014 at 02:40 PM


The agents that went to the hospital will be tested for HIV for the next 6 months or so if the junky was bleeding, and or they were bleeding. How about a little HIV for Christmas.
Tough day for everybody. I'm sure the agents we not looking to kill somebody when they came to work and I guessing the junky wasn't looking to die ether.




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[*] posted on 12-26-2014 at 02:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MMc  
The agents that went to the hospital will be tested for HIV for the next 6 months or so if the junky was bleeding, and or they were bleeding. How about a little HIV for Christmas.
Tough day for everybody. I'm sure the agents we not looking to kill somebody when they came to work and I guessing the junky wasn't looking to die ether.


Talk about HIV/AIDS myths and misconceptions.

You can't catch HIV just because a criminal suspect was bleeding, and a border agent might have touched him, during a fight.

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[*] posted on 12-26-2014 at 03:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

Talk about HIV/AIDS myths and misconceptions.

You can't catch HIV just because a criminal suspect was bleeding, and a border agent might have touched him, during a fight.


Well, if the agent had an open wound and a person being appreheded with HIV had an opened wound and bodily fluids were exchanged I would say that there is potential, however small or large, for a transmission of virus.

Isn't that why most healthcare professionals wear personal protective equipment.

That's what I am my co-workers did for the 1/4 century I was involved with street-level medicine.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Actually, the possibilities of infection under those circumstances are extremely low. Blood supply is like an artesian well; blood comes out, doesn't go back in. It's a 'pressurized system', and the virus must be injected, by one form of 'needle' or another. Our PPE in EMS didn't amount to much when stuck with a 'sharp', and that's where trouble begins. However Mr. Patch, I agree, if it's warm and wet, glove up.

{my edit} on second thought, there's a lot worse critters than the AIDS virus at that point; half a dozen hepatitis strains, TB, all kinds of bad juju that aren't as fragile as the HIV virus. Much more virulent and contagious, and if the guy was a slime ball, i'd be scrubbing down with disinfectant pronto. It's a risk all LEO's have to take when grappling.

[Edited on 12-26-2014 by bajabuddha]




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[*] posted on 12-26-2014 at 04:24 PM


Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

Talk about HIV/AIDS myths and misconceptions.

You can't catch HIV just because a criminal suspect was bleeding, and a border agent might have touched him, during a fight.


Well, if the agent had an open wound and a person being appreheded with HIV had an opened wound and bodily fluids were exchanged I would say that there is potential, however small or large, for a transmission of virus.

Isn't that why most healthcare professionals wear personal protective equipment.

That's what I am my co-workers did for the 1/4 century I was involved with street-level medicine.

Tell me I'm wrong.


You're wrong, but since you're involved with street-level medicine, I'm not going to get into why healthcare professionals wear personal protective equipment.

You also really can't catch an STD from a toilet seat, although it's probably more theoretically possible, especially with warts and crabs jumping around. But I feel better using a toilet gasket in public restrooms, because there are a few things you can catch in the bathroom.




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[*] posted on 12-26-2014 at 06:11 PM


HIV was the first thing that came to mind. Fighting with a addict can cause health issues. I get into a fight with a junky, I'll be seeing a doctor quick.
My point is nobody wanted anybody to die, get hurt or to get sick because of a fight Christmas day. I hope you all had a great Christmas, and have Happy New Year.





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[*] posted on 12-26-2014 at 07:11 PM


Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
You're splitting hairs, big dog.
A guy being forcibly restrained is not a toilet seat.

Low odds do not an impossibility make. People win the Lotto, no?

That's the problem when you throw out absolutes.

And, yes, I'd be far more afraid of HepC.
And, yes, transmittable bad-stuff was why we all wore PPE. Hell, we had CE's on it every few months.
Our PPE was top of the line. But, we were paid professionals and we were all highly aware of these issues.
I worried about sharps but the street-fighter covered in blood and vomit, well, those were the guys we were careful with. And, if they died they died, as long as they didn't give me something special to bring home to my family, well, I never lost any sleep or my appetite over it.

You guys continue on with your traditional BajaNomad peeing contest.
I won't.

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[*] posted on 12-28-2014 at 12:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
something deep inside says whakamole and joerover are related somehow.....

just thinking what timing........for both.

Troll alert.

Are you against people that hate herion addicts, hmmmm

the flu is passed by hand shake more than any other way.

note to cbp
kill all junkies please sir




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