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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  | It had nothing to do with the work, but getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away
what a businessman can do).
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The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City. |
DK: these are some topics for your next baja campfire debate! Happy spring break everyone!
So Pemex retail stations are franchises,... if Subway corporation tells a franchisee in Oceanside CA how to run their business, is Subway a socialist
organization?
If socialism is so bad, how come the ideas are so persistent? And if capitalism is so good, why do so many people in free market economies live in
poverty? Has there ever been a free market capitalist economy without many people living in poverty?
DK: you assign magical properties to capitalist, free market small-government dream world, but you got no proof such a world has ever worked for the
entire population.
And who says that economic prosperity is the most important thing in life for an individual or society?????? Perhaps there are more important things
in life than money, eh?
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | .....getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away what a businessman can do).
.....The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City. |
Thank you , David, for pointing out the evils of regulations imposed by socialistic dictators. Up until now, I did not realize that mopping a floor
and providing toilet paper was so closely governed by the chilangos.....commie ones at that. 
I can now better understand why you are so incensed by such intrusiveness into your life.
There is do doubt Antonio is a great guy. That is not the issue (presented in simple language so you won't have to go through the nightmare of
understanding my point).
Don't believe everything you think....
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | It had nothing to do with the work, but getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away
what a businessman can do).
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The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City. |
DK: these are some topics for your next baja campfire debate! Happy spring break everyone!
So Pemex retail stations are franchises,... if Subway corporation tells a franchisee in Oceanside CA how to run their business, is Subway a socialist
organization?
If socialism is so bad, how come the ideas are so persistent? And if capitalism is so good, why do so many people in free market economies live in
poverty? Has there ever been a free market capitalist economy without many people living in poverty?
DK: you assign magical properties to capitalist, free market small-government dream world, but you got no proof such a world has ever worked for the
entire population.
And who says that economic prosperity is the most important thing in life for an individual or society?????? Perhaps there are more important things
in life than money, eh?
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I am always HAPPY to help!
Subway is NOT owned by the government (yet).
Socialism is a government that controls business in such a way that the business owner cannot make the normal operating decisions without permission
of the bureaucrats.
The socialist ideas are persistent because there will always be people who are lazy or unmotivated to apply their skills. This is specially true when
the government so easily and quickly gives them money for not producing... in the belief that once on the program it is a guaranteed vote at the next
election.
Brain washing the population that business and corporations are evil is conditioning the future to poverty as well.
Would you change a system that has only a few people in poverty for one where ALL people are equally poor. The few poor in America are richer than
most of the world's population, by-the-way. Have you been to other countries... places like Mexico? Where the average income American can vacation a
couple weeks a year in a place where he is considered 'rich' because is is able to do so compared to many or most in Mexico... and Mexico is 'rich'
when compared to Guatemala, etc.!
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rts551
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | It had nothing to do with the work, but getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away
what a businessman can do).
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The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City. |
DK: these are some topics for your next baja campfire debate! Happy spring break everyone!
So Pemex retail stations are franchises,... if Subway corporation tells a franchisee in Oceanside CA how to run their business, is Subway a socialist
organization?
If socialism is so bad, how come the ideas are so persistent? And if capitalism is so good, why do so many people in free market economies live in
poverty? Has there ever been a free market capitalist economy without many people living in poverty?
DK: you assign magical properties to capitalist, free market small-government dream world, but you got no proof such a world has ever worked for the
entire population.
And who says that economic prosperity is the most important thing in life for an individual or society?????? Perhaps there are more important things
in life than money, eh?
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I am always HAPPY to help!
Subway is NOT owned by the government (yet).
Socialism is a government that controls business in such a way that the business owner cannot make the normal operating decisions without permission
of the bureaucrats.
The socialist ideas are persistent because there will always be people who are lazy or unmotivated to apply their skills. This is specially true when
the government so easily and quickly gives them money for not producing... in the belief that once on the program it is a guaranteed vote at the next
election.
Brain washing the population that business and corporations are evil is conditioning the future to poverty as well.
Would you change a system that has only a few people in poverty for one where ALL people are equally poor. The few poor in America are richer than
most of the world's population, by-the-way. Have you been to other countries... places like Mexico? Where the average income American can vacation a
couple weeks a year in a place where he is considered 'rich' because is is able to do so compared to many or most in Mexico... and Mexico is 'rich'
when compared to Guatemala, etc.! |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/17/r...
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/why-are-...
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Aside from all the silly Fox News rants that emanate from DK, my understanding is that years ago, Antonio had planned a restaurant, but out of respect
for his neighbor Dona Anita, he would not go forward on the project until her passing. Does he know something that we don't?
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd | | Aside from all the silly Fox News rants that emanate from DK, my understanding is that years ago, Antonio had planned a restaurant, but out of respect
for his neighbor Dona Anita, he would not go forward on the project until her passing. Does he know something that we don't? |
That is exactly why I said Taco Stand in a Parador style complex. You should check with BajaBoy, who says things have changed. It wasn't to do with
her passing, but as long as there was a restaurant next door.
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bajabuddha
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Motoged gets the Master-Baiter award of the year.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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motoged
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I am not worthy....I am not worthy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEn3a4TIUw
[Edited on 4-2-2015 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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willardguy
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doesn't work on my box?
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Marc
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Has anyone on this board been to India?? Or for that matter; an Indian restaurant...anywhere? 
[Edited on 4-2-2015 by Marc]
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| Quote: Originally posted by oxxo |
 And here is the gratuitous political comment. It didn't take long! Can't help
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Always fun to watch the fish rise to the bait.
Living Large in Loreto. Off-grid and happy.
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motoged
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I fixed it......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEn3a4TIUw
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd | | Aside from all the silly Fox News rants that emanate from DK, my understanding is that years ago, Antonio had planned a restaurant, but out of respect
for his neighbor Dona Anita, he would not go forward on the project until her passing. Does he know something that we don't? |
That is exactly why I said Taco Stand in a Parador style complex. You should check with BajaBoy, who says things have changed. It wasn't to do with
her passing, but as long as there was a restaurant next door. |
I had a nice conversation with Antonio last night. It's not my story to share, though. I will let Anotonio share his news when he is ready.
David, I'm guessing Mexico's government is controlled by big business just like the good ol' US of A. 
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