Whale-ista
Super Nomad
Posts: 2009
Registered: 2-18-2013
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Sunny with chance of whales
|
|
Questions regarding seven-day FMM forms- exit stamp required?
As posted elsewhere: I lead a group of friends into Baja last weekend for a week of whale watching and other adventures. We stopped at the Tijuana
crossing to get our 7- day free FMMs and my friends all made date format errors completing the forms: putting the month first instead of day.
The person at the desk was none too happy to have to reissue five forms. But he was even more unhappy with me, supposedly because this was my third
trip in the last three months using the free seven day form. He looked at my passport for each of the entries and saw there was no exit stamp.
He then claimed I was supposed to return to the office each time to have an exit stamp put into my passport!
Last time a different person at the same office threatened to fine me 2000 pesos for failing to return the 7-day FMM form when I left Mexico. But this
is the first time I have been told I needed an exit stamp in my passport. (I have gotten that in the past at an airport when leaving the country on a
flight, but never at a land Crossing.)
I am beginning to think they're basically after the money. Last year I would get the 180 day FMM and pay the $25. Then I realized I was rarely staying
more than a week and it was a waste of money I would rather spend on beer or gas.
Maybe next time I will just bring my passport card instead of my paper passport book. Has anyone used the card when getting an FMM, instead of their
paper passport? Do they accept the card in Mexico, or do you need the official passport?
And has anyone else had this level of difficulty when getting a seven day form, if you travel down often?
[Edited on 4-7-2015 by Whale-ista]
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
|
|
Maron
Nomad
Posts: 458
Registered: 4-14-2014
Member Is Offline
|
|
Great questions, I also am awaiting responses.
Thks all
|
|
yellowklr
Senior Nomad
Posts: 507
Registered: 4-14-2006
Member Is Offline
|
|
I use my passport card and have never had an issue. If they ask I tell them i mailed my old FMM in
Derek
|
|
bajabuddha
Banned
Posts: 4024
Registered: 4-12-2013
Location: Baja New Mexico
Member Is Offline
Mood: Always cranky unless medicated
|
|
First, the forms do cost money to print. The guy that does the paperwork needs to get paid to feed his kids. Yes, they are "after the money", so is
everyone.
Your last year's choice of spending the $25 and being covered the whole time without having to fiddle around at the border doing paperwork every trip
I think would have covered your sawbuck you spent. And, if you have to quibble over $25 and still make 3 or more trips up and down the Baja it's a
paltry sum, que no?
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
86 - 45*
|
|
Whale-ista
Super Nomad
Posts: 2009
Registered: 2-18-2013
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Sunny with chance of whales
|
|
Thanks yellowklr- good to know they accept the card.
I realize these forms cost money to process. I'm trying to understand what the regulations actually require. This was the first time I had heard of
on exit stamp requirement.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
|
|
sancho
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2524
Registered: 10-6-2004
Location: OC So Cal
Member Is Offline
|
|
With you on that. I'm not sure the free 7 day was meant for
the frequent visitor. You wll get different answers re: fmm's
from different Imm Officers, has always led to confusion.
I always turn mine in, and they stamp my passport. I think
we are fortunate to go to Mex with very little paperwork
and honor their simple requests, regardless if they matter
|
|
soylent_green
Junior Nomad
Posts: 90
Registered: 9-4-2014
Member Is Offline
|
|
total BS
you don't need an exit stamp, and you can get as many 7 day permits as you want.
Plus, you can get a FMN with a passport card - no place to put an exit stamp.
CALL Ricardo Salazar, the head of Compliance at Immigration in Tijuana and report it. 011-52-664-636-6017
Tell him the port, date, and time this happened.
|
|
Whale-ista
Super Nomad
Posts: 2009
Registered: 2-18-2013
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Sunny with chance of whales
|
|
Thanks Soylent- I appreciate this Information, and may use the card next time.
I just don't see why it matters if I go often to visit friends/family, but only stay a few days each trip- I'm a teacher, on a limited budget but
with generous holidays.
The requirements seem to change with each visit, depending on who I speak with when I request the FMM.
One person told me: just turn in the paper at their office before crossing north, or mail it in later.
This time it was: get your passport stamped before leaving the country.
So... which is it?
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
|
|
sancho
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2524
Registered: 10-6-2004
Location: OC So Cal
Member Is Offline
|
|
That would be a heck of an effort to get to Mex Imm at the new
San Ysidro crossing, I've stood on the ped bridge over the TJ
river looking at the border entry, I suppose it may be possible,
certainly not practical, let alone the ped Imm crossing into TJ,
one of the San Diego Mex Ins Brokers says on their site
one doesn't have to return an fmm in Baja, so it is as always,
clear as mud
|
|
Brinloor
Junior Nomad
Posts: 79
Registered: 8-16-2010
Location: Mulegé
Member Is Offline
|
|
Passport exit stamp
Hmmm, you mentioned having your passport stamped on exit at an airport. I am a permanent resident and have looked, apparently never been stamped out
at Loreto. On a recent trip north I went through immigration in transit in Los Angeles and had my passport stamped in the US. On arrival in Canada I
drove south to cross the US border again. US immigration wanted to see an exit stamp to prove when I left Mexico. Fortunately I still had my Loreto
boarding pass, otherwise I don't know what proof I could have given. So I am just wondering if airport passport exit stamps are the norm. Thanks for
any insights.
|
|
Whale-ista
Super Nomad
Posts: 2009
Registered: 2-18-2013
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Sunny with chance of whales
|
|
Brinloor- it's been years since I flew into MX- living in San Diego I normally drive.
I'd have to look back at previous passports, but I think they were stamped routinely at airports.
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
|
|
Whale-ista
Super Nomad
Posts: 2009
Registered: 2-18-2013
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Sunny with chance of whales
|
|
Agree Sancho- not sure how I would manage it at SI. Otay would also be a challenge.
Easier at Tecate- but I often travel solo, and depending on the line, wait time... unlikely I would do it even there.
This last time, we exited at Tecate on Good Friday- no one was in line going north. I suppose I could have crossed, parked in the US, walked back into
MX, delivered the FMM and asked for my passport to be stamped... just to keep the staff at the Tijuana happy with me!
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
|
|
Nappo
Nomad
Posts: 102
Registered: 1-25-2009
Member Is Offline
|
|
I think I posted earlier, how at SY, asking for a 7 day free FMM when asked what our purpose was and answering "fishing" he said we had to pay. No
way to get out of it. Next time we're monks. Mailing it back??? I always remember the 100s of boxes at the Cabo Port Captains office after getting a
form to launch a boat. No one could possibly keep track of that stuff, and yep they still use a typewriter at the Pesca office in San Diego when
getting a fishing license. I go there just cause it brings me back to the old days, when carbon paper was king!
|
|
sancho
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 2524
Registered: 10-6-2004
Location: OC So Cal
Member Is Offline
|
|
Inconsistency seems the only thing consistent in Mex Imm offices. A guy on another site going so., was told the 7 day
was good to Rosarito, so. of there you had to pay for an fmm.
The good old days, get a few blank free fmt's from AAA, use
when needed
|
|