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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 06:24 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I am just saying there is a dark, dangerous side to the underground growers business.


I've read that the Sinaloa cartel is involved in the pot growing business in the Northwest. True? Anybody know?
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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 07:18 PM


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Quote: Originally posted by Ateo  
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The "War on Drugs" never worked. It is just a big waste of money and lives. The lust for drugs and addiction will always be. Let them have it and let them kill themselves. Tough Love! (...or Tough S***). Parents, let them go. They are gone anyway.


Yep, a total waste of $$$ and lives. We should have a war on sex and see how that goes. Human nature is hard to control. We love our booze, our drugs (legal and illegal), and endless other addictions. Some people's brains are wired to love getting high. I would argue that they don't even have free will in some instances. We need smarter drugs laws. We need more compassion. Locking up drug addicts is close to immoral. They need treatment. I completely disagree with your statement to "let them go".


"...let them go is a tough one". It is a terrible heartache for the families, whether they try and help or whether they let them go. Fortunately, neither I nor family are involved with drugs, so I am somewhat removed from the problem.

Your word "Compassion" got to me. Yes, compassion is needed throughout this troubled world today. I am not stuck on a "let them go" stance. I was trying to offer a tough opinion as a solution, but I am willing to soften, Ateo. Thank you for your contribution.


Art, you are a gentleman sir.




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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 07:25 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I am just saying there is a dark, dangerous side to the underground growers business.


I've read that the Sinaloa cartel is involved in the pot growing business in the Northwest. True? Anybody know?


The only person I have ever heard connect pot growing with the Cartels is the Sheriff of Siskiyou County in northern California. He occasionally pulls off a bust for the media and weighing the bundles of immature plants, roots, dirt and all, under a helicopter claims to have interdicted MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars worth of cannabis. Our local far right-wing anti-government militia is on record claiming that he is on their side. So, I have never heard a reputable source make a claim for Cartel presence in my neck of the woods.




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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 07:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by toneart  

Thank you for your contribution.



And yours as well toneart.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2015 at 04:10 AM


Do you think maybe Chapo and his crew played a roll of him getting busted to get the $5 billion bounty that the US had on his head. Somebody got reward money after the media show of him being captured went to global outlets. Just a guess, but he is no dummy.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2015 at 09:53 AM


tecatero, I think the bounty amount was 1 Million..rather that a Billion. Still a decent amount, though.

Such a disgrace for Mexico, but not surprising to anyone on the planet. Moral values have changed....dropped... so much in societies within the last couple generations. What was it that that possum,Pogo, used to say..."We have met the enemy, and they is us."




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[*] posted on 7-13-2015 at 11:49 AM


Good for El Chapo!

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Mexican Drug Lord El Chapo Rips Donald Trump Via Twitter Following Second Prison Break

The Donald has found yet another enemy. Escaped Mexican drug lord El Chapo, one of the world's most notorious cartel leaders who made headlines for escaping prison for the second time this weekend, is out for Donald Trump.

On Sunday, July 12, Trump took to his Twitter to rail against his political opponents and El Chapo (Joaquin Guzman Loera), following the criminal's high-profile escape from a maximum security prison west of Mexico City.

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https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/mexican-drug-lord-el-chapo-...
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[*] posted on 7-28-2015 at 08:42 AM


The Arrellano brothers went to the US court & prison system, El Chapo paid up front and called in some chits to make sure that never happened to him.
Robin Hood lives again. :biggrin:




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