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AKgringo
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The ounce of prevention
Thanks Bob or Susan for posting the link. I really should try to do that myself more. But then, this is why it is a community thing.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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monoloco
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Unless you are allergic to the scorpion venom it's likely that your treatment was totally unnecessary.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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lizard lips
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Spent 5 days at Hospital Del Carmen several years ago and had excellent care. The doctor gave my wife the prescriptions and bough the medication at
the pharmacy. When the bill came after 5 days it was about $450.00. Couldn't believe it. The nurses are great and the room very clean. Couldn't ask
for more....
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bezzell
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so was flushing the offender down the toilet. But so many folks are ** ******.
[Edited on 9-22-2015 by BajaNomad]
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Osprey
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bezzell, that little post puts you at the top of your "So Many Folk" list.
Time for another Will Rogers moment "We're all ignorant, it's just about different things."
[Edited on 9-22-2015 by Osprey]
[Edited on 9-22-2015 by Osprey]
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bezzell
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If you say so Gramps.
Don't feel bad ... you're not alone as part of the older generation completely oblivious to the inherent destruction. Now get out there and slay some
more fish a la Hemmingway!  
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Osprey
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"Inherent destruction?" Of what, pray tell. No sabe.
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SFandH
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I think he's talking about the scorpion the OP flushed down the toilet.
It takes all kinds.
[Edited on 9-22-2015 by SFandH]
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AKgringo
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | I think he's talking about the scorpion the OP flushed down the toilet.
It takes all kinds.
[Edited on 9-22-2015 by SFandH] |
Hopefully that is the last of it's kind! (the 'Troll', not the scorpion)
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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EngineerMike
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Mexicans know if you get stung to find the critter so you know what species. A friend was on the beach in LA Bay when a kid got hit. Scorpion was
tiny & red. They threw that kid in a car & laid scratch to get him medical treatment.
Another friend got her second hip replacement in La Paz. Said it was worlds better than the one in the States. She was doted on, and the hip work
was perfect.
Yet another friend had $4,800 (US price) worth of dental work done in La Paz. Dentist picked her up at her motel, dropped her off, bought her lunch.
Two appt'mts over 3 days, and after motel & all other costs she pocketed the $3,000usd difference.
A full bore G.P medical degree & license in Mexico takes 5 years plus a year of community service, 6 total after high school (no intermediate
degree req'mt just to weed out folks and cost your family money), and if you pay full bore tuition at a great school its $9kusd/year for 5yr plus room
& board for 6yr. Call it $65,000. If you get a tuition scholarship its less than half that including room & board. Nursing is a fraction of
that. Of course specialists take a few more years, but I believe you start earning a stipend at that point. With the cost of education so low the
service is bound to be a bargain.
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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bajabuddha
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From the OP's original post (Kimberley) "... I realized how hellish painful the sting was. I proceeded to get ready for school and called my cab for
work. By the time I got there my arm was throbbing and my hand had turned really red. I had no idea what I should do, so I asked an English speaking
teacher who told me we needed to go to the hospital right away."
Those symptoms were enough to qualify for an ER visit, no doubt about it. A shot of epinephrine (or whatever) and a pain killer were in order for
outpatient treatment. She did right, they did right, and happy ending (except for the bug).
E-Mike is spot-on about medical treatment in Mexico; you gets whatcha pays for. A guy in my last encampment (married a local Mexicana) got a hip
replacement that was cheap in Mexico, and has cost him dearly in time, replacement, pain, travel, and suffering to finally get it done right NOB in
Sandy Eggo. Ain't saying right or wrong, but you have to shop around and find the proper doc---umentation (PUN INTENDED).
The little horse-puddle here in my town I wouldn't let a few of these doctors perform an autopsy on me, but some have managed to keep me kickin' a few
times so far. My PA at the local clinic is truly a healer archetype. Too bad she has to farm me out to quacks and 'insurance regulations'.
That's why they call it, "PRACTICING medicine". 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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EnsenadaDr
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Hospital del Carmen I believe is where Ron Hoff had a stupendous recovery after his near death attack. They did a phenomenal job. It is a private
hospital, however, and I still urge all of you legal Mexican residents to apply for Seguro Popular as an extended stay can cost thousands of dollars,
and with Seguro Popular treatment would be free.
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EnsenadaDr
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$65,000 a year for a struggling student even with family support in Mexico is nothing to sneeze at. It took me student loans and working weekends to
complete my medical degree and it was a challenge even for a US employed student to make it. | Quote: Originally posted by EngineerMike | Mexicans know if you get stung to find the critter so you know what species. A friend was on the beach in LA Bay when a kid got hit. Scorpion was
tiny & red. They threw that kid in a car & laid scratch to get him medical treatment.
Another friend got her second hip replacement in La Paz. Said it was worlds better than the one in the States. She was doted on, and the hip work
was perfect.
Yet another friend had $4,800 (US price) worth of dental work done in La Paz. Dentist picked her up at her motel, dropped her off, bought her lunch.
Two appt'mts over 3 days, and after motel & all other costs she pocketed the $3,000usd difference.
A full bore G.P medical degree & license in Mexico takes 5 years plus a year of community service, 6 total after high school (no intermediate
degree req'mt just to weed out folks and cost your family money), and if you pay full bore tuition at a great school its $9kusd/year for 5yr plus room
& board for 6yr. Call it $65,000. If you get a tuition scholarship its less than half that including room & board. Nursing is a fraction of
that. Of course specialists take a few more years, but I believe you start earning a stipend at that point. With the cost of education so low the
service is bound to be a bargain. |
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha | From the OP's original post (Kimberley) "... I realized how hellish painful the sting was. I proceeded to get ready for school and called my cab for
work. By the time I got there my arm was throbbing and my hand had turned really red. I had no idea what I should do, so I asked an English speaking
teacher who told me we needed to go to the hospital right away."
Those symptoms were enough to qualify for an ER visit, no doubt about it. A shot of epinephrine (or whatever) and a pain killer were in order for
outpatient treatment. She did right, they did right, and happy ending (except for the bug).
E-Mike is spot-on about medical treatment in Mexico; you gets whatcha pays for. A guy in my last encampment (married a local Mexicana) got a hip
replacement that was cheap in Mexico, and has cost him dearly in time, replacement, pain, travel, and suffering to finally get it done right NOB in
Sandy Eggo. Ain't saying right or wrong, but you have to shop around and find the proper doc---umentation (PUN INTENDED).
The little horse-puddle here in my town I wouldn't let a few of these doctors perform an autopsy on me, but some have managed to keep me kickin' a few
times so far. My PA at the local clinic is truly a healer archetype. Too bad she has to farm me out to quacks and 'insurance regulations'.
That's why they call it, "PRACTICING medicine". |
A friend from South Carolina got this letter of encouragement in the mail:
"Your food stamps will be stopped effective March 2015 because we received notice that you passed away. May God bless you. You may reapply if there is
a change in your circumstances."
--Department of Social Services, Greenville , South Carolina
Bob Durrell
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EngineerMike
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EnsenadaDr- That's not per year, that's $65k all in, full ticket, out the door full tuition + room + board + expenses paid for all 6 years (assumes
no scholarship assistance). That's still a gigantic nut for an economically challenged familia. If you can't get a scholarship and the family income
is manual labor level pay, you ain't going to med school.
We've had 2 doctors graduate on our Scholarship Program so far, one before my admin and one last June. Now we have a 3rd in med school in Colima, and
her familia could never have afforded the burn despite the fact she was straight 10's in H.S. and 1st place in class all 3 years. Ditto with Dra.
Emilia who graduated this summer. But it doesn't take much to bridge that gap, especially when you balance it against a quarter of a mil in debt for
same education in the States.
Anyhoo, with the price of education so low, medical work in Mexico should continue to present a veritable bargain for some time. In fact, it would
make great business sense for major hospital complexes to spring up along the border (south side I'm talkin), for all manner of treatment, not just
plastic surgery.
Director, Mulege Student Scholarship Program
Oasis Rio Baja #M-3, & Auburn, CA
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EnsenadaDr
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I agree Mike, it is an insurmountable amount and actually my expenses were over $100,000 USD but I did have a daughter to raise, that was with working
at a fairly good salary in the US. During my internship and social service, I couldn't work as I had to do guardias, or overnight shifts with the
medical staff. I remember a girl whose parents sold tacos from a taco stand in Ensenada, and I wondered how she did it. I know UABC does give free
tuition, but very few pass the entrance exam, and I started before that school in Ensenada opened up to medical school. If you don't have money then
like you said, you aren't going to medical school.
I currently run a clinic in La Mision and cater to Americans that would like a doctor who is fluent in English. I supplement my income by working a
few days consulting in the US. I enjoy my days home in Baja. The main problem Mike is that the standards of passing the United States Medical
Licensing Exam steps 1, 2 and 3 are almost insurmountable. My school, Xochicalco, is recognized by the US government and therefore will allow you to
take the exam, but the Mexican system doesn't gear its teaching to pass with a high score in the 90's and many do not pass at all. All in all, it's
been a wonderful experience and even though I owe student loans, I wouldn't trade it for the world.
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kimberleygd
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| Quote: Originally posted by bezzell |
so was flushing the offender down the toilet. But so many folks are ** ******.
[Edited on 9-22-2015 by BajaNomad] |
Well, the doctor thought I may be allergic, hence the shot. Unnecessary? Maybe, but it sure as heck made me feel better. So now I have experience and
stocked up on Benadryl.
And as for flushing, if he was just visiting and I came upon him I would have escorted the little ****** out the door. But since he took it upon
himself to invade my bed and sting me he deserved to be flushed.
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bajabuddha
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Kimberly, check your u2u.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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