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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 01:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  


Thank you... Now, let's say okie was being as legal as possible in Mexico and he is getting a Residente Temporal. Was the airline or INM correct to take his FMM from him when he flew out of Los Cabos?





I don't know. I have RP status and I have not flown within Mexico.....yet

If he has an RT card/status, he probably doesn't need an FMM

And if you ask INM, you will get conflicting answers



All airlines in all countries around the world are governed by local INM laws/rules. It is not just Mexico.

If you are flying into/out of the country of Mexico and you have a R/P or R/T there is a different way of handling the FMM. Yes, it is the same form tourist fill out however the paperwork is handled "backwards". I have a R/P. When I fly out of SJD I go to the INM office to have the FMM form stamped. The INM agent separates the form then I give the small portion of the form (the right side) to the airline ticket/gate agent. I keep the larger portion of the form (the left side) which I will give to the INM agent the next time I enter the country of Mexico. The reason I call it "backwards"...tourist use the same form but everything is the opposite. The INM takes the left side of the form when they enter the country then the tourist gives the airline the right side of the form when they leave the country.

The airlines are only the middle man for INM. Airlines are required to collect two different kinds of taxes for the country of entry. There is a tourist tax and there is an airport tax. All tourist are required by law to pay the tourist tax & airport tax. If you are a citizen of Mexico, have a R/P or R/T then you are only required to pay the airport tax. "IF" you have a R/P or R/T you can talk with your airline about getting the tourist tax reimbursed...they may require proof of your visa. Flying out of SJD and depending on the pesos this tax could be $40ish USD. Talk with your airline.

As a R/P or R/T, and assuming one has entered the country of Mexico legally then one does not need a "FMM" to travel via airline or by driving inside the country. You may be asked for a FMM but all you need to do is show you R/P or R/T card. When driving locally I keep copies of our R/P cards and a copy of our CFE bill inside the glove compartment.

The exception...the 72 hour rule. I am not talking about the border. A couple of years ago we had some friends that started a 14 day cruise in Florida that ended in Ensenada. Their son needed to depart the cruise to fly out of SJD in order to get back to work. The cruise company was aware that the passenger was getting off the boat early but when I explained to her..."your son will be asked for a tourist FMM in order to get on the plane so you should talk with the cruise company." She emailed me a big thank you. After bringing this to the attention of the cruise company they provided her son the proper paper work explaining the passenger had departed the cruise ship the same day of his airline ticket. Due to the 72 hour rule he was not required to pay the tourist tax but his airline ticket included the airport taxes. He handed the letter/paperwork to the ticket agent at the airline...no questions were asked, he got on the plane.

So, was INM or the airlines correct to take the FMM. When flying the INM requires the airlines to collect the FMM. Of course the passenger always has the right to drive back to the border if they want to keep their FMM.



My Daddy always said..."My House My Rules! Guess the INM feels the same way.
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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 04:18 PM


And do not even get me started on FMM's for mariners.


That is a whole different can of worms.....
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[*] posted on 10-25-2015 at 04:35 PM


Does anyone else remember the days when you flew to Mexico and did not have a visa requirement upon entering. But, in order to board your plane out, you were charged an exit fee?

I recall a time when we were in Acapulco back in the 80s when we were approached by a bunch of US youths who had spent almost their last dime partying and were panhandling for cash so they could get on their plane home.

I think the fee back then was $11.
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[*] posted on 10-27-2015 at 04:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Does anyone else remember the days when you flew to Mexico and did not have a visa requirement upon entering. But, in order to board your plane out, you were charged an exit fee?

I recall a time when we were in Acapulco back in the 80s when we were approached by a bunch of US youths who had spent almost their last dime partying and were panhandling for cash so they could get on their plane home.

I think the fee back then was $11.


This still happens for cheap-donkey British package holiday airlines like Thomson and Thomas Cook on packages into Cancún. They don't include the DNI (the fee you pay for the FMM) or airport taxes in the airline ticket the way everyone else does. They actually have their own charter terminal at CUN, too.

So you're a Brit on one of these all-in packages and you land at CUN. You fill out your FMM like you're supposed to, and you do your vacation. Then when it's time to leave you file through a line where you have to put $800 m.n. or the equivalent in sterling into a box.

The Internet is absolutely chock full of Brits complaining about the scam, especially those who go overland to Chetumal and then into El Corozal, Belize, to do some duty-free shopping... they get dinged for their DNI when they leave, and then on the way back they go through normal FMM procedures (like we do on the northern border) and pay AGAIN.
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