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[*] posted on 3-13-2016 at 09:07 PM


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You are a stupendous gas bag. You really need a bigger vehicle, I don't know how you fit that ego in such a modest size car.
Dk better watch out! you will soon surpass him and claim title of bloviator-in-chief!


Yes gas! That's what my girlfriend complains about. But what shall I do? Less beer? Less meat? Less green stuff? More pasta? So many choices.

Found a solution for my gargantuan ego. The cloud! Unlimited storage - always accessible. Super cool! No need to stuff it in my small rig. Would not fit - you are absolutely right.

Time for a fresh beer.




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Like your approach to life :):) ^^ .. and I bet it is cold
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[*] posted on 3-13-2016 at 09:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


You are a stupendous gas bag. You really need a bigger vehicle, I don't know how you fit that ego in such a modest size car.
Dk better watch out! you will soon surpass him and claim title of bloviator-in-chief!


Yes gas! That's what my girlfriend complains about. But what shall I do? Less beer? Less meat? Less green stuff? More pasta? So many choices.

Found a solution for my gargantuan ego. The cloud! Unlimited storage - always accessible. Super cool! No need to stuff it in my small rig. Would not fit - you are absolutely right.

Time for a fresh beer.


1 question: What US truck/SUV of this size can carry more load than an MB G?
2. question: What is an bloviator? >That is Esperanto? Or Spanglish? >Mistake in writing? Does that has something to do w/ a blowjob? :fire:
3. question: What US SUV/truck needs less gas than a MB G? >>> not knowing the engine size of this one. If its a Diesel, no US vehicle can beat the gas mileage of an MB G.
4. question: What vehicle can carry more ego than an MB?
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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 09:27 AM


I drive my '12 Acura MDX (yes guys I have an extra spare...). It requires premium gas which I can find all the way down, no problem. If I remember right premium is 92 octane in Baja, 93 in Baja sur (my car loves it!). I belong to a travel club and put the magnet signs on both sides. Dirty is better! The only place I would worry about a car jacking in TJ to Ensenada. Seems to me once you are away from the megatropolises crime is minimal. I don't stop after crossing until Walmart in Ensenada. I feel pretty safe once south of Ensenada.
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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 09:31 AM


Ensenada and the Valle de Guadalupe are great places. You should stop and explore sometimes instead of blasting through

Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I drive my '12 Acura MDX (yes guys I have an extra spare...). It requires premium gas which I can find all the way down, no problem. If I remember right premium is 92 octane in Baja, 93 in Baja sur (my car loves it!). I belong to a travel club and put the magnet signs on both sides. Dirty is better! The only place I would worry about a car jacking in TJ to Ensenada. Seems to me once you are away from the megatropolises crime is minimal. I don't stop after crossing until Walmart in Ensenada. I feel pretty safe once south of Ensenada.
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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 10:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I drive my '12 Acura MDX (yes guys I have an extra spare...). It requires premium gas which I can find all the way down, no problem. If I remember right premium is 92 octane in Baja, 93 in Baja sur (my car loves it!). I belong to a travel club and put the magnet signs on both sides. Dirty is better! The only place I would worry about a car jacking in TJ to Ensenada. Seems to me once you are away from the megatropolises crime is minimal. I don't stop after crossing until Walmart in Ensenada. I feel pretty safe once south of Ensenada.


why would anyone need 2 spares - I almost never use the original




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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 10:55 AM


Harald----------In my some 50 years plus of driving back-roads in Baja and Sonora (and in the States) I always carried 2 spares, and had to use them at least 10 times. Two times as I remember I had to borrow a spare because 2 were not enough. I do drive a heavy rig with an oversize custom CALLEN camper, and that accounted for many of my flats and destroyed tires, but still the security of having 2 spares was always a comfort for me. Most of my tires were oversize, and top-name-brand, but still flats and rim-cuts do happen with annoying regularity. As a professional off-road driver I do know how to drive, but this still happened from time to time.
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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 11:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by anchor007  
We're planning to drive from Canada to Todos Santos at the beginning of 2017. Just starting to do research now.
Is there any vehicles we should avoid driving down that might be a target for carjacking..
we were considering a black ford f150 truck but worried we might be a target for carjacking? should we consider a small suv like a jeep cherokee instead? It will just be me and my husband driving with our small bulldog. Any thoughts?

[Edited on 3-13-2016 by anchor007]


Do you live in Alberta?
Calgary police are warning drivers to be aware of their surroundings and not to resist, in the wake of two separate carjackings in a 24-hour period this weekend.

Carjacking in Taradale has Calgary police on the hunt

"The theft of a vehicle with violence obviously brings it to a whole new level," acting Insp. Phil Hoetger said Sunday.

"That is the part that concerns us."

A woman was in her van in the Market Mall parking lot Friday around 9:30 p.m. when a dark-skinned man with a medium build ordered her to get out while pointing a gun at her, Hoetger said.

Police believe the man was working with two other men in a small four-door red car.

The woman's vehicle was a silver 2003 Chevrolet Venture van, licence BHH 5604.

On Saturday, a man was driving northbound on Tarrington Rd. N.E. just south of Taradale Dr. when his white 2012 Ford F-150 was rear ended by a Dodge Ram 3500 at about 9:15 p.m.

The victim's licence plate is BPZ 0235.

The driver of the Dodge truck, a Caucasian male with a European accent, punched the victim in the face before getting in the victim's truck and driving off, while the Dodge followed with two occupants.

The suspect driver is 5' 10" with a stocky build, short dark hair and wore a grey hoodie and jeans.

Police can't say if the incidents are connected at this time but are urging drivers to take precautions.

Be aware of your surroundings, do not resist if approached, avoid leaving vehicles running and unlocked and when inside a car keep the doors locked, police warn.




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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 04:13 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Harald----------In my some 50 years plus of driving back-roads in Baja and Sonora (and in the States) I always carried 2 spares, and had to use them at least 10 times. Two times as I remember I had to borrow a spare because 2 were not enough. I do drive a heavy rig with an oversize custom CALLEN camper, and that accounted for many of my flats and destroyed tires, but still the security of having 2 spares was always a comfort for me. Most of my tires were oversize, and top-name-brand, but still flats and rim-cuts do happen with annoying regularity. As a professional off-road driver I do know how to drive, but this still happened from time to time.


wow - I am surprised to read that from a pro!

I was convinced that the right tire size/volume for the vehicle weight combined with the appropriate tire pressure choice would eliminate flats.

In the early days when I was using stock size 205R16 and slightly bigger 31x10.50 I sometimes wished to have a 2nd spare on my Baja trips.
One flat a day was not uncommon.

Then my Baja racing friends told me 35x12.50 or nothing.

I re-geared my rig and bought the big ones. It worked.
Not a flat in 20 years.

Now I run slightly smaller tires (295/75R16) and had a flat 3 years ago.

Volume rules

[Edited on 3-14-2016 by 4x4abc]




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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 04:19 PM


The air pressure thing is great... On the Poll Line Road, everyone deflated (even though it was mostly a rocky road instead of sand... the miles arroyo section east from the Suzuki being the most sand.

Not one flat tire... just the broken Ford.




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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 08:09 PM


Harald----------a slight correction I must make to my post above about spare tires and flats:--------I did not mean "rim-cuts"----what I really meant was sidewall-cuts and punctures, mostly by wooden staubs from bushes, and occasionally by very sharp rock fragments. I run on 285 x 75/16 BFG's KO's on 8" rims on my F-250, and slightly smaller BFG KO 265 x 75/16 on 7.5 inch rims on my Nissan X-terra. I do carry a fast and portable $300 compressor, and do inflate and deflate my tires as appropriate. Like many other's, I am a firm believer in low pressure when in the dirt, rocks, and sand, but sometimes fail to let the air out when I should, and I have paid for that several times with flats. Basically I agree with you, but I do like the mental-comfort of the extra spare when a long way from help.

I am truly amazed at where you have "driven" (for instance between El Barril/Los Corrales/ and on to the pavement east of San Ignacio)------what a fantastic feat!!! I made it to almost Los Corrales from the North in my F-250, but that was it as we got nervous a few miles south of San Miguel Rancho since we had no adequate backup vehicles. I salute your off-road adventures!
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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 09:06 PM


I have calmed down considerably with my off-road adventures.
Used to teach mission impossible (yes, there is a cable on that vehicle)
In case someone is wondering - it was in Surprise Canyon (off Panamint Valley) now part of Death Valley NP and closed. That one was super cool!






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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 10:31 PM


Harold---------LOL------------I drove into Panamint City in a Chev. 2-wheel drive 1/2 ton pickup in 1953 or 4, I think, and it was steep but a piece-of-cake. My how things have changed (sorta like the climate). LOL

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[*] posted on 3-14-2016 at 11:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Harold---------LOL------------I drove into Panamint City in a Chev. 2-wheel drive 1/2 ton pickup in 1953 or 4, I think, and it was steep but a piece-of-cake. My how things have changed (sorta like the climate). LOL



well the road that was in place, washed away in the 60's
the fact that there used to be aroad in place made it legal to drive/winch up and down those waterfalls

only 2 or 3 buildings left in Panamint City
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[*] posted on 3-16-2016 at 07:45 AM


I have an "extra" spare because the stock spare is one of those stupid mini things. I had to put new tires on so I bought a cheap steel rim and had the best of the old tires mounted. My tires are a pretty specific size (P255/50R19), if I needed a new one I know it would be a tough find in Baja. I may get an extra air filter, too! It is 11 or so miles on a dusty road to our house; last time it got pretty dirty!
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[*] posted on 3-16-2016 at 08:21 AM


I carry two spares but have never had more than one flat in a day. One trip about 15 years ago I had two flats different days and was able to plug them both.

Last weekend on the way out of La Bocana I hit a small rock pile on the sand road and a rock bent the edge of the rim making it rub the caliper. I had a tire guy pull it off and he thought he could hammer it back but instead broke the edge of the rim off. I prefer steel rims for that reason.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2016 at 08:55 AM


TMW must have had a cheap cast Alloy rim. I bent a forged Alcoa on my F350 and the tire guy put it back to its original position with no cracks.

Yes - 2 spares is a very good thing to have in Baja.

Warning - late model cars come with a temporary spare with a speed limit. Ruin a tire and you are stuck driving the the border slowly in order to buy a replacement tire. Very few tire places in Baja outside of the border cities stock tires that need 17" or larger rims. No big deal just replace the miniature spare with a proper full size rim and tire. Then you discover the wheel well in the back will not fit that full size spare setup. Maybe something to check when you buy a new daily driver for use in Baja?
Yup - Guilty. I did not check and my Honda CRV has the small wheel well. I had to go thru the drill to drive slowly from San Felipe to El Centro to get a replacement tire. Shame on me. I wont buy a car with a small spare wheel well again. Sigh....

And for sure have a good plug kit for those inevitable flats or leaks

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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I have calmed down considerably with my off-road adventures.
Used to teach mission impossible (yes, there is a cable on that vehicle)
In case someone is wondering - it was in Surprise Canyon (off Panamint Valley) now part of Death Valley NP and closed. That one was super cool!




That pic is super cool.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2016 at 09:04 AM
Anchor007, are you there?


I wonder what the original poster thinks of three pages of reply's to the one and only post he or she submitted? Granted, cliff driving and off road wheeling was not part of the original question, but did you get the answer you need yet?

This thread got legs, and with no mention of politics or climate!




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