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[*] posted on 2-3-2020 at 06:40 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
another one of those posts where many members dig up collective knowledge to help - but the OP disappears into thin air after the first post


It is likely he did not get what he wanted but he already found what he needed, and got satisfaction, eh? :light:




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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 08:07 AM


What are symptoms one can use to determine if the timing chain needs to be replaced if the vehicle has more than 100k miles?

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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 08:21 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


It is likely he did not get what he wanted but he already found what he needed, and got satisfaction, eh? :light:


Sounds reasonable. Then most likely he decided to just let it bleed!




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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 08:37 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
What are symptoms one can use to determine if the timing chain needs to be replaced if the vehicle has more than 100k miles?


There may be no symptoms prior to failure, but there may be an unusual noise, or possible water pump leakage. If you do not have reliable service records on a 100k vehicle, you must remove enough parts to do a visual inspection.

I recently bought an Isuzu Trooper with only 106k, and the belt appeared to be in good condition, but I went ahead and changed out the belt, water pump, and tensioner anyway. Better to do it at home, rather go through what the OP may or may not be dealing with right now!

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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 08:37 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
What are symptoms one can use to determine if the timing chain needs to be replaced if the vehicle has more than 100k miles?



I'm not sure you would notice anything, as they approach failure. That's why car manufacturers just put it in the regularly scheduled maintenance category. Much like the timing belt that has replaced it on so many cars.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 08:39 AM


If the gear on crankshaft is fiber 80,000 to hundred thousand . miles. They can go a lot longer on some models. If it has a steel gear on bottom they go more time. Many cars have rubber timing belt. They can snap 80,000 miles to 150,000 on those . You also change tensioners and guilds.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 08:54 AM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
What are symptoms one can use to determine if the timing chain needs to be replaced if the vehicle has more than 100k miles?



first, check to see if your engine does use a timing belt - or is it using a timing chain. chain, I really dont worry about it, but if its a belt
manufacture recommends an interval. may be as little as 60K miles, or up to 100K. i stretch their recomendation 10 - 20% and then have it changed, and while they are in there, do the water pump as well, should be no extra labor, just cost for the pump.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 08:54 AM


Some vehicles have timing chains. Some have timing belts. Timing belts wear out and break and should be replaced at intervals - usually 60-80K. Chains rarely break but wear with age and start to make noise and can wear a hole in the timing cover .
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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 09:27 AM


Ye just changed the timing chain, gear, water pump and oil pump on my 55 year old slant six daily driver in Baja, it was worn and seems happier now.

I would like to change it on my 351w with 135k mikes but there is no sign of an issue, yet? Argh!

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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 11:12 AM


My 2001 Tacoma with a 3.4 liter V-6 had a timing belt, the recommended replacement interval was 90,000 miles. I had it done then, and replaced the water pump at the same time since it was all exposed and easy to do, plus there was a drip (so they told me, but I never had seen water leak).

My 2005 & 2010 Tacomas with a 4.0 liter V-6 have a timing chain, nothing bad has happened (yet)!




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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 11:20 AM


timing GEAR.....love the sound!:P
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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 11:31 AM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
My 2001 Tacoma with a 3.4 liter V-6 had a timing belt, the recommended replacement interval was 90,000 miles. I had it done then, and replaced the water pump at the same time since it was all exposed and easy to do, plus there was a drip (so they told me, but I never had seen water leak).

My 2005 & 2010 Tacomas with a 4.0 liter V-6 have a timing chain, nothing bad has happened (yet)!


Yes, Toyota has gone back to chains at least on their truck engines. I was quite surprised that my 2018 Subaru Crosstrek also has a chain w/ no scheduled maintenance
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[*] posted on 2-4-2020 at 11:52 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
timing GEAR.....love the sound!:P


:yes:love the whine but difficult to do on the OHC!
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