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[*] posted on 8-17-2020 at 10:11 PM


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All I have to add is that you are going to love this trip! The whales are amazing. The whale sharks in La Paz was hard for me, the water was cold, it was windy and one has to be comfortable with a snorkel (I am not) and a fast swimmer (I am not). But they are huge and it was incredible to be so close to them.

The most important stop for gas is EL ROSARIO. One must fill up there!

If you can, stop by Mama Espinoza's restaurant even if just for a cup of coffee because the items they have inside are mind boggling. It has so much history.

I happened on this write up of the trip south and it is really good!


https://indianajo.com/baja-california-road-trip-itinerary-me...






Whale sharks are the one thing we didn't get to see on our bucket list when we were scuba diving. So we had to decide between Cancun and La Paz to snorkel with them and the choice was easy, La Paz. We plan on bringing our 7 mil wetsuits since the water will be cold.

The trip write up was a great read!
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[*] posted on 8-17-2020 at 10:23 PM


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In Loreto stay at La Mision or the Oasis.

Be sure to see San Javier in Loreto. Most beautiful mission in Baja. Paved road to it.

For about 1,700 pesos a panga will take you out to Isla Coronado. This is a must see.

The islands around La Paz are breathtaking. The last one has hundreds of sea loins.

Stop at Bahia de Los Angeles on the way back. Costa del Sol is the best hotel there.

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Great info. on Loreto, we'll check out the mission.

Your videos are top notch. That has to be some of the best riding anywhere right in our backyard. Funny thing, i have several coworkers who take their Razors all over So Cal, but they are terrified of going to Baja. Their exact words were "f*** no I'm not crossing the border".
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[*] posted on 8-18-2020 at 07:24 AM


To clarify JZ's great advice; San Javier mission is not in Loreto but 21 paved miles to the west of Loreto, up in the mountains. It is extremely beautiful and an original 1700's Jesuit church, and California's second mission, founded in 1699. The first mission is in Loreto, 1697. There is a museum at the Loreto mission, as well.
Plenty more mission history posted on Nomad, on my Facebook group, and in my book.
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[*] posted on 8-18-2020 at 09:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
To clarify JZ's great advice; San Javier mission is not in Loreto but 21 paved miles to the west of Loreto, up in the mountains. It is extremely beautiful and an original 1700's Jesuit church, and California's second mission, founded in 1699. The first mission is in Loreto, 1697. There is a museum at the Loreto mission, as well.
Plenty more mission history posted on Nomad, on my Facebook group, and in my book.
Happy to answer questions, too!


Thanks for the clarification. My wife joined your facebook group recently to see the missions.

Based on your experience, do you think Google drive times are fairly accurate? For example, it says San Felipe to Guerrero Negro is 7 hrs. and Loreto to La Paz is 4 hrs. I'm wondering if they take into account slow trucks, detours, checkpoints, etc. and if I should pad the drive times.
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[*] posted on 8-18-2020 at 09:17 PM


I use an average speed of 50 mph to estimate drive times, that include photo, gasoline, & pee stops, as well as checkpoints. 300 miles = 6 hours. You probably will do it in 5 hours, but for planning purposes it is safe to use the 50 mph avg. Motor homes or towing, 40 mph.



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[*] posted on 8-19-2020 at 06:45 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I use an average speed of 50 mph to estimate drive times, that include photo, gasoline, & pee stops, as well as checkpoints. 300 miles = 6 hours. You probably will do it in 5 hours, but for planning purposes it is safe to use the 50 mph avg. Motor homes or towing, 40 mph.


Understood, thanks.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2020 at 07:18 AM


I have done both Guererro Negro and San Ignacio many times for whale trips and I would really recommend San Ignacio. Since I'm told the trip pricing is regulated by the Govt. generally it doesn't matter which tour operater you go out with. I learned long ago at San Ignacio to drive out to the lagoon and hang a left four to five miles then start checking the operators for trips that are not full. I have even waited a couple hours to get on a boat that was not crowded. Only one time have I been on a boat with more then 5 people and three times there was only two on the boat. Way better experience being able to move around the boat freely.Worth every penny of larger Pangaro's tip.
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[*] posted on 8-22-2020 at 03:53 PM


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I have done both Guererro Negro and San Ignacio many times for whale trips and I would really recommend San Ignacio. Since I'm told the trip pricing is regulated by the Govt. generally it doesn't matter which tour operater you go out with. I learned long ago at San Ignacio to drive out to the lagoon and hang a left four to five miles then start checking the operators for trips that are not full. I have even waited a couple hours to get on a boat that was not crowded. Only one time have I been on a boat with more then 5 people and three times there was only two on the boat. Way better experience being able to move around the boat freely.Worth every penny of larger Pangaro's tip.


Good advice.




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[*] posted on 8-23-2020 at 11:18 AM


Quote: Originally posted by amigobaja  
I have done both Guererro Negro and San Ignacio many times for whale trips and I would really recommend San Ignacio. Since I'm told the trip pricing is regulated by the Govt. generally it doesn't matter which tour operater you go out with. I learned long ago at San Ignacio to drive out to the lagoon and hang a left four to five miles then start checking the operators for trips that are not full. I have even waited a couple hours to get on a boat that was not crowded. Only one time have I been on a boat with more then 5 people and three times there was only two on the boat. Way better experience being able to move around the boat freely.Worth every penny of larger Pangaro's tip.


That's an interesting method, thank you.
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[*] posted on 8-23-2020 at 02:57 PM


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To clarify JZ's great advice; San Javier mission is not in Loreto but 21 paved miles to the west of Loreto, up in the mountains. It is extremely beautiful and an original 1700's Jesuit church, and California's second mission, founded in 1699. The first mission is in Loreto, 1697. There is a museum at the Loreto mission, as well.
Plenty more mission history posted on Nomad, on my Facebook group, and in my book.
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just a heads up the mission is currently closed for corona, you can still see outside and take pics but the interior is locked up




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[*] posted on 8-23-2020 at 04:23 PM
Constructed in the 1750s at California's Second Mission, founded in 1699


Thanks for that bit of news...

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outside:











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[*] posted on 8-23-2020 at 04:57 PM


Even seeing the outside is worth it. Fun little trip out there. Some good views.




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[*] posted on 8-24-2020 at 10:07 AM


San Javier is definitely worth the trip. I was there last year for the fiesta, what a blast. I'm sure this year will not be the same.:(
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[*] posted on 8-24-2020 at 10:36 AM


Do walk on past the mission to see the back side and on to the pila (reservoir) and the famous giant olive tree.

Take lightly stories you hear about the age of the tree or the stained glass in the church. While the mission was established in 1699, it wasn't established here... but 5 miles north at Rancho Viejo.

The mission moved to this location around 1710 and the massive stone church was not constructed until the years 1744 to 1758.













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[*] posted on 8-25-2020 at 05:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by defrag4  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
To clarify JZ's great advice; San Javier mission is not in Loreto but 21 paved miles to the west of Loreto, up in the mountains. It is extremely beautiful and an original 1700's Jesuit church, and California's second mission, founded in 1699. The first mission is in Loreto, 1697. There is a museum at the Loreto mission, as well.
Plenty more mission history posted on Nomad, on my Facebook group, and in my book.
Happy to answer questions, too!


just a heads up the mission is currently closed for corona, you can still see outside and take pics but the interior is locked up


We've been watching this also. We decided we will postpone the trip unless everything is open and the virus is under control.
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[*] posted on 8-25-2020 at 06:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Thanks for that bit of news...

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outside:









What a beautiful mission. Its amazing this mission is as old as our country.
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