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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 04:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by vandy  
And as far as native spelling skills, I wish I had taken pictures of the series of official signs I saw on a bridge on hwy 1 between Santiago and Miraflores.

The first said "Puente Las Vivoras".
A month or so later it was "Bivoras"
The last and current one reads correctly "Viboras"

They are all pronounced the same.


LOL, yes the B and V is interchangeable at times!

Is this vendor in San Quintín selling GOOD pitayas: VUENA = BUENA ??






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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 04:37 PM


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Yeah, I hear your doubts about INEGI, but with all due respect, if I have to decide between trusting your individual experience or professional Mexican cartographers over official spelling of names in their country and their native language, well...

Anyway, what we foreigners think is moot: If the Federación wants to deal with that town, the reference name they will use is determined by INEGI, not some outsider who barely understands Spanish. For pragmatic reasons, I'd listen to the actual authority.

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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 05:46 PM


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There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say?


Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA


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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 05:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
INEGI is NOT a good source for correct place names, always.

I don't doubt that, but your picture of how they work may not be totally accurate. They have an office in La Paz, and during the 90's they had a bunch of people working out of there, running mapping operations at least for BCS, with field personnel out personally driving and hiking even into remote areas.

I don't know all the details, but I do know they were doing GIS processing of the collected data in that office, so it's not as if it were all done from some disconnected skyscraper in Mexico City...


The topographic detail is fine... it is the names they apply to locations that is not 100%, that's all I am saying. I am currently reviewing INEGI sheet maps... and am looking for errors just so we can have the best information available. It is what I like to do having been a Baja map fan for 55 years!




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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 06:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say?


Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA




That's how I have it labeled in my GE way points I made over the years. I'm gonna stick with that.





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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 08:38 PM


My second biggest take away from this thread is finding Punta Diablo.

Been to the SS 5-6 times, but haven't been to this bay yet. Looking forward to seeing it over the next couple months.





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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 08:38 PM


As for the B and V thing, sometimes the locals will ask you if something is spelled with "V de Vaca" or "B de Burro"; the difference in pronunciation can be hard to distinguish.
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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 08:49 PM


Fun little surf spot at Diablo JZ. Usually pretty protected by the wind, long sandy bottom waves.

Uh oh, is the goat going to yell at me now to exposing more “secret” spots? :o:o:o
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[*] posted on 9-28-2020 at 09:31 PM


The double L is pronounced like the y in yellow. The pronunciation of ll in the Spanish alphabet is ey-yay. So the word llamo (which means name) would sound like yamo.
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[*] posted on 9-29-2020 at 06:07 AM


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My second biggest take away from this thread is finding Punta Diablo.

Been to the SS 5-6 times, but haven't been to this bay yet. Looking forward to seeing it over the next couple months.



From my Trip #4 report, Punta Diablo/ El Cardón Beach: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=86376








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[*] posted on 10-3-2020 at 07:41 AM


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[*] posted on 10-3-2020 at 03:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say?


Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA




That's how I have it labeled in my GE way points I made over the years. I'm gonna stick with that.

So if I can remember my Spanish language schooling from years ago it would go something like this;

Santa Rosa = un pueblo
Santa Rosalia = un pueblito
Santa Rosalillita = un pueblitotito

But I defer to the native speakers for the real thing. And Santa Rosalillita is not that little tiny place it once was with that fancy harbor and all.:smug:



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[*] posted on 10-3-2020 at 04:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by El Jefe  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
There are road signs for it off MX 1. What do they say?


Both the tall and the low signs: SANTA ROSALILLITA




That's how I have it labeled in my GE way points I made over the years. I'm gonna stick with that.

So if I can remember my Spanish language schooling from years ago it would go something like this;

Santa Rosa = un pueblo
Santa Rosalia = un pueblito
Santa Rosalillita = un pueblitotito

But I defer to the native speakers for the real thing. And Santa Rosalillita is not that little tiny place it once was with that fancy harbor and all.:smug:



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[*] posted on 10-3-2020 at 04:12 PM


Curious why there is no text from El Jefe??? Tom, try again!



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