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PaulW
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11 years for that historical drive. Easy to believe it is much different now.
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David K
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My friends drove to the mission and beyond just last October (to film The Last Mission)... It looked no harder in 2020 than in 2010. From about Minute
10:07 to 11:20 is a 4Runner, an FJ Cruiser, a Jeep Wrangler, and a Tacoma coming down the Widowmaker: https://vimeo.com/487608164
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PaulW
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Sadly
So much for the hike discussion.
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Well, this is in the Off-Roading forum and not the hiking forum, so hopefully we won't be banned! 
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Great pictures thank you I have not been there in years . David do you know Kacey smith lizard lady ? She rode with me a short while yesterday till
she got stuck . She claims moto trail from bottom up knows who did it . She left this morning south .When she returns next week to me I will get
details . I find that story hard to believe unless pulled motos with ropes 🤗
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Quote: Originally posted by advrider  | I rode it on my moto two years ago and it was a crazy climb back out, the kind where you don't want to make a mistake. I wouldn't drive anything in
there that wasn't locked front and rear with some serious ground clearance. I would do it in my scrambler on 37's and 1 ton's but not in anything near
stock or much smaller.
Not an easy place to get help or recovered from. |
We took 3 stock Rubicon all the way in December. Only one little scrape on a rock slider. Great fun.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Great pictures thank you I have not been there in years . David do you know Kacey smith lizard lady ? She rode with me a short while yesterday till
she got stuck . She claims moto trail from bottom up knows who did it . She left this morning south .When she returns next week to me I will get
details . I find that story hard to believe unless pulled motos with ropes 🤗 |
the guy on the moto took video
it was up for some time
I think, it was more than one guy
video is no longer on youtube
they rode from Santa Maria to Gonzaga
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If you knew them you would believe it. Animals the lot.
The leader of the ride, if there can be such a thing, since this started as a hiking thread, put up a route with a friend to El Diablo via Cañon La
Providencia.
First attempt left them short for time as more gear was needed than hoped for. Bivvied for a night, turned around, left gear in place for the return
attempt. Return trip was a successful summit and exit via Cañon del Diablo. Gear is still in place if anyone wants to try it.
They did not use ropes to pull bikes but if they thought they would have needed them they could and would have done so.
Video is down because many have awoken to the simple fact that too many views equals too many birds pooping on the nest you built syndrome. Next thing
you know you are rescuing some yahoos who are there because you showed them the way, guey. Ni modo.
�And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry
years. It was always that way.�― John Steinbeck
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"Nature bats last." Doug "Hayduke" Peac-ck
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| Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider | | Great pictures thank you I have not been there in years . David do you know Kacey smith lizard lady ? She rode with me a short while yesterday till
she got stuck . She claims moto trail from bottom up knows who did it . She left this morning south .When she returns next week to me I will get
details . I find that story hard to believe unless pulled motos with ropes 🤗 |
Yes, I know Kacey, The Lizard Lady... She attended my first Viva Baja party, 21 years ago! I am not sure what moto trail (from bottom up) you are
referring to? She is the one who published the La Turquesa Canyon shortcut track in her first book. She called it the 'XR Ride'.
Here is Kacey and the late Carlos Fiesta, at Viva Baja #1 in San Clemente, Oct. 2000:
I saw Kacey again at Alfonsina's, for Thanksgiving, 2 or three years later.
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you don't have to be Taddy Blazusiak to conquer this trail you just need to be up for an adventure and be in shape. father and son neighbors with
almost no two wheel experience made it down and back to Gbay from their house in Catavina, they did it on 2wd Rokons. they did have to use ropes.
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Rokons are hard to handle
[Edited on 5-23-2021 by 4x4abc]
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I have found it's very tricky to photograph a trail in a way that truly indicates how difficult it is to drive in real life. But if these stock (or
nearly so) SUVs made it... It does look steep though!
[Edited on 5-24-2021 by geoffff]
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Yes, stock with better tires, rear locker, min 9" ground clearance. See the tv show The Last Mission link I have posted, showing 4 nice 4x4s going to
Santa MarÃa and back.
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not so,a little practice and they're a blast! and they'll crawl up the side of a building if you let em. 
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With time the road will change. With the increase if the number of rigs that use that track I am pretty sure the road gets worse.
How about a recent report?
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The damage from rubber tires is nothing compared to the rare, but always possible chubasco that dumps a foot of rain over a couple of days!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Here is the entire 20-minute show. Filmed in October 2020, released in March 2021 on Amazon Prime: The Last Mission
https://vimeo.com/487608164
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| Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo | | The damage from rubber tires is nothing compared to the rare, but always possible chubasco that dumps a foot of rain over a couple of days!
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Chubascos don't move rocks
torque does
stupid drivers do
same lame argument on the Rubicon Trail
weather made it rough
then why did weather decide to only ruin the 10 feet wide section we call road and everything else looks healthy after snow, rain, hurricanes
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You may want to rethink this part, Harald?
The road from San José de Magdalena to Mission Guadalupe comes to mind... but there are so many more places rocks are moved after heavy rains. Nature
always wins, in the end!
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
You may want to rethink this part, Harald?
The road from San José de Magdalena to Mission Guadalupe comes to mind... but there are so many more places rocks are moved after heavy rains. Nature
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we are talking about the road to Santa Maria.
The Chubasco moves rocks on the road but not left and right of the road?
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