LancairDriver
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Is Baja safe to get your oil changed?
Mexico may have some interesting compensation laws to deal with but I think the US may be leading in that area in lawsuits.
https://share.smartnews.com/k46EV
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JZ
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You can definitely get your dipstick checked without too much danger.
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bajatrailrider
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Maybe but I do my own oil change in states or baja. Dont need a kid leaving drain plug lose or cross threaded .
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I find it astonishing that by leaving a vehicle with a dealership for routine service, liability could come back to the owner for a failure of the
dealer! 
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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That's a good one and it sounds like lawyers.
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I think the whole story is BS.
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JC43
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SO DO I 
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Google the subject and see how many legitimate news sources are reporting on the incident. If you have ever driven a stick shift Jeep you may
understand how this incident happened. The young helper stood outside the Jeep on his left leg and held the clutch down with his right foot to start
it. When the Jeep started he lifted his right foot off the clutch and the Jeep must have been left in gear and jumped forward into the mechanic
pinning him against a large toolbox. Not hard to understand. This is a good example of how the lawyers will find anyone they can to sue. You better
beware in CA as the lawyers there are the worst of the Vultures so keep on thinking it is BS.
[Edited on 5-8-2022 by LancairDriver]
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KasloKid
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Yeah, a search turns up lots of legit sites with the report...
"under Michigan law, if someone is injured or killed and a vehicle is involved, the owner of the car is responsible."
So is this ludicrous turn of events a result of only being a law in Michigan? We need a lawyer to chime in here!!
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Hey, if my family member was murdered thru negligence, I would sue every one i could.
I love lawyers, especially the smart ones.
Why are you all grumbling about lawyers and the law? The guy is dead as result of a work place incident, and the employer said flock you to the
family of deceased, so the family rightly sued every warm body.
I’d possible, I always insist my subs and vendors defend and indemnify me. Stupid not to.
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Sounds like what's explained in the following quote is what's happening.
"When you let someone drive your car, your auto insurance coverage kicks in to handle any claims. If the person you loan your vehicle to is determined
to be at fault for an accident, then other parties may make a claim against your policy."
https://www.ladahlaw.com/faq/what-happens-if-someone-else-is...
[Edited on 5-8-2022 by SFandH]
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For a bit more clarity.
“As Femminineo explained to Jalopnik, the Hawkins family can’t directly sue the dealership or its management. Michigan workers’ compensation law
says you cannot sue a fellow employee for negligence while on the job. So the Hawkins family’s only option was to sue the Jeep owner. But that
doesn’t mean the Jeep owner will be held responsible for the accidental death.
According to Femminineo, when the Hawkins family filed suit against the Jeep owner, that person immediately sued the dealership for indemnification,
and won. With that victory in place, whatever results from the Hawkins family’s suit against the Jeep owner will be the legal responsibility of
Rochester Hills Chrysler Jeep Dodge (and their insurance company). Basically, while the owner of the Jeep is named in the suit, that person won’t
face any repercussions from the trial or judgment.”
https://jalopnik.com/why-a-jeep-owner-is-being-sued-for-a-me...
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Something like this happens if you give a stick shift to a Gringo. Only very few - mainly those Baja travellers - are capable of shifting a stick
shift.
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My son in Anchorage is teaching his daughter how to drive. She will take part in a formal driver's ed course a bit later, but the basics will be
learned in one of my old Kias with a stick.
A whole lot of the basics will be driving on back roads and on 4x4 terrain! Her first lessons included driving on frozen Anchorage roads.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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Quote: Originally posted by JC43  | | Something like this happens if you give a stick shift to a Gringo. Only very few - mainly those Baja travellers - are capable of shifting a stick
shift. |
Why would baja travelers be more capable of driving stick than non-baja travelers?
Stick is obsolete. They don’t even sell them any more, except to a few cranks who buy Miata’s or other chicks cars (sports cars with IC engines
are obsolete, the new sports car is an electric with whiplash inducing acceleration that is whisper quiet)
I had many sticks,… I sure like modern automatic transmissions, with sport mode, tow mode, traction control, 10 speeds, etc.
Today a stick is entertaining to drive for a few minutes, then it is just a chore. Much easier to text/make phone calls and drive with an automatic!
Other automobile things I am glad have gone obsolete: hand crank windows, carburetors, IC engines (we are in the last decade of IC engines, the
future is electric). I used to have a vehicle with a choke on the dash. Glad my cars no longer need to be choked to start.
[Edited on 5-8-2022 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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bajatrailrider
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How strange your thinking of a tourist. Jc43 is correct overall most in states cant drive manual trans. Lazy fat want to text on phone while driving
not smart. In Baja Mex manual trans is very much alive many drive manual trans. Many off road tourist in baja do enjoy manual trans. When is last time
you checked your 10 speed auto dollar amount to rebuild it ? Manual trans bullet proof when you need new cultch . Cheap V auto repair. I enjoy
driving so 3 out of 4 my rides manual trans. Screw your e cars boring to drive . when I decide to order new Hilux Diesel manual 6 speed . Bring back
enjoyment of driving . As we know not possible in CA bumper to bumper traffic.
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