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Bob and Susan
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I got a 2011 versa hatchback...the "note" came later...
the thing is a little "tinnie" but it's really roomy inside and
gets great mileage
tires are CHEAP compared to the truck though
and I cant go on that cut-off road across baja if I go east
too many BIG rocks
i paid $9000usa out the door...put a set of tires on it and drove home...it was one year old
i figure its worth about $5000usa today...so its costing me a grand a year
it started as a hertz rental.
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tripledigitken
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I wish Udo would chime in on his experience regarding Prius batt life. Awhile back he said he put over 400,000 miles on one.
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Bob and Susan
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wow!!!
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pauldavidmena
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Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  | If the top 4 gun violence cities were dropped from the stats (all of them Democrat controlled for decades but that's getting into an area I wish to
avoid) then the USA drops from near the top of the list to about 4 from the bottom in the World!
BTW, those 4 cities have the most stringent gun laws on the books
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Since this thread has already been hijacked...
I've seen this "statistic" before, and while it sounds meaningful, it's really disingenuous. Of course eliminating the outliers would change the
outcome for the U.S. violence versus other countries, but you can't do this sort of data manipulation for one country and not the others. To compare
apples to apples, eliminate the 4 violence hot spots for all countries in this study, and then see where the U.S. ends up.
It's like saying that if it wasn't for the Yankees, Cardinals, Dodgers and A's, the Red Sox would be the baseball team with the most World Series
championships. Wait - I kind of like the sound of that...
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mtgoat666
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No such thing as a green republican. If you vote republican, you vote for the party that takes a stance against any and all things green
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MrBillM
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The Process of Elimination Salvation
IF we were to Eliminate or (at least) Incarcerate, the principal component of the population causing the problem in those four cities, the
"Stats" and our security would take a BIG leap for the better.
Outside the Urban Swamps in places like I live, the majority of Gun-Use incidents that make the local news are
Victims using those guns to fend off an attack with Deadly-Force. Usually a Home-Invasion.
Try convincing ANY of them that they'd have been better off without a Firearm.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | No such thing as a green republican. If you vote republican, you vote for the party that takes a stance against any and all things green
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Emotional rants over facts, again Mr. Goat?
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mtgoat666
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Just the facts, ma'am.
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Cliffy
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I drove a Versa HB for a few days (rental) and really liked the inside room, the quiet road noise and the spirited handling and I'm a big car type
person. I like to drive submarines like old Caddies and Lincolns. They kind of float along the road. Even Buick RoadMasters! But the Versa got my
attention.
You chose your position in life today by what YOU did yesterday
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bajacamper
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Nope! I refuse to rise to the bait Mr Goat...
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bezzell
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The Prius has come a long way.
Hats off to Toyota !! wow
( just how clueless do you have to be to comment on styling etc, when these are major functions of it's success ....
'function before form' )
sheez
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| Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy | Just a question that I don't have the answer to-
You save gas driving you get double my mileage in my 2006 F150
but what is the total carbon footprint from first fire in the smelter for the steel to build it (including all the energy that goes into building the
batteries) and all the energy that it takes to re-compost it so to speak when it dies?
Are you ahead or behind carbon wise, with the gas you save over its life?
Really, just thinking, I don't have the answer. I just need a new car. |
don't have full answer (but shouldn't take too much research) but I'd put money on current versions getting closer to 3x that F150 gas mileage (?) )
just fyi
Quizzing Prius drivers ... I'm surprised at the real-world mileage they're touting!
ps how about all that room in the back with rear seats down!!? That's Costco-run material
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[Edited on 2-20-2016 by bezzell]
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Are Pious owners really superior, or do they just act that way? Mmmm Goat?
The harder I work, the luckier I get
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mtgoat666
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If I own piousness, then I must be superior, eh?
Feel the bern!
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MrBillM
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Pious about Prius
Often renting cars, the one time I ended up with a (non-hybrid) Prius, I found the seats less comfortable than other Brand/Models.
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monoloco
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| Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM | | Often renting cars, the one time I ended up with a (non-hybrid) Prius, I found the seats less comfortable than other Brand/Models.
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The only non-hybrid Prius was a phony one that was announced as an April fools joke.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by monoloco | | Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM | | Often renting cars, the one time I ended up with a (non-hybrid) Prius, I found the seats less comfortable than other Brand/Models.
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The only non-hybrid Prius was a phony one that was announced as an April fools joke.
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Mr bile is full of chit, as usual
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MrBillM
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You're RIGHT
Looking it up, it was a Ford Focus.
After awhile and so many, the rentals tend to blend together.
My wife once said that we should make a note of which cars had features that we didn't like, but I noted that, at Enterprise (in YV), you
just end up with whatever is available.
I ordered a "Compact" a couple of weeks back for a run to Palm Springs and ended up with a Hyundai Santa Fe but, at least, you only pay for
whichever "class" you reserved.
SO, anyway, the Ford Focus has uncomfortable seats, for whatever that's worth.
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