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comitan
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Jerry
Alot of solar panels to supply 18amps DC is that a 24hr day?
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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jerry
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if it produced 50 or 60 gal a day would be enoff for a household pretty comfortable say 8 hours a daylight i dont know about the upkeep and
maintenence?? but its sounding realistic or maybe i should say that its sounding like its getting close to the citys price
ok all you brains out there how many solar panels will it take to produce 18 amps 12 DC and batteries for 8 hr. a day?? have a good one jerry
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Sharksbaja
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Rapid Spray Evaporation
Here is the a solution I've looked at earlier. Technologies are emerging that could do high-volume utility output for small cities, towns.
What say you Marv?
Rapid Spray Evaporation (RSE?) reduces the cost of seawater desalination and brine discharge treatment by 50% to 90%, while doubling freshwater
production, according to AquaSonics International, the US company that developed the patented process.
http://aquasonics.com/tech.html
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comitan
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Sharks
The Rapid Spray Evaporation sure looks good on paper.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Gypsy Jan
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Well, many somebodies
are betting big time on big growth on the so-called "Gold Coast" between Playas de TJ and Ensenada.
Playa Blanca (just south of Playas TJ) and surroundings have websites and ads promoting huge "quality living, fully self-contained resort
communities".
There are two separate high rise towers finishing out and taking deposits near Fox Studios/Popotla, (despite the court fight about land ownership
concerning one of them).
Calafia (the tower) is building a second one.
Calafia (the hotel) is building a tower.
Club Marena is finishing out the rebuild of the burned tower and building a fourth one.
Montebello (?, not sure of name, but Coldwell Banker has offices there) is building a high rise.
Between there and La Fonda, there are several developments building busily away, including the new Polo Club, which will host a meet in October.
That's not even to mention the Baja Las Vegas development near Bajamar and the Ventanas al Mar in the zona de fallas on the road to Ensenada.
As Skeet has said, "Where is the water?" and, by inference, where's the infrastructure and services to support all this?"
Myself, knowing the history of the burnout at Club Marena, I would never, ever live in or own a property over three stories high. And I certainly
would never, ever live in a complicated, high rise building that requires a reliance on the proper maintenance skills and dedication of others.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Joelt
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Jerry Volts X Amps = Watts.
12 volts X 18 amps = 228 watts per Hr. X 8Hrs = 1824 watts per 8 hrs.
Then it all depends on the size of the panels and batterys.
I think that if you are just going to run it durring daylight hours that you may be able to get by without the batterys. Just run it off the panels
and some kind of a voltage regularor maybe. Your still looking at about $1000 or more for two 150 watt panels. I haven't priced them lately. Still in
the long run it may be worth it. I like the idea of being off the grid.
Joelt
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jerry
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thanks i think id use the batteries anyway to act as sinks to store power and as regulators supplying a constant flow to the desal plant as well as
useing it for other power in a houshold lets just say $1500 for panels and batteries $4000 for desal plant total$5,500 pluse operating costs?? think
it will run more then your water bill?? and you have a power that you can use for the houshold with a holding tank i think your set now dig in a
septic satilite tv phone and computerlink and all you need is tequela a sweetheart,big garden a good boat and my gasahol still to be self suffecent
perhaps im getting carried away but i think it can be done with some intuition and resurch the tecnoligie is moving pretty fast have a good one jerry
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2frogs
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Well, I'm excited to read all these ideas! Maybe you all will have the problems solved by the time we move there I'm with you on the high rise buildings.
FORGET IT....we were living on the 11th during an earthquake in downtown Portland. Don't like that feeling. My husband is an ex-volunteer
fireman...enough said. So, I'll stay on one level and hope for water He! He! You all keep up the good brain storming
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2frogs
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Pampano, thank you for all that good info. I'm saving this for my husband. We lived very isolated in Costa Rica and had a generator for ER, don't
know how much roughing it I want to do in the future. But, it doesn't sound like you are roughing it????I remember just the sound of the generator
drove me nuts. I don't know that I understand everything you explained, so I'll wait for my husband to translate Ha! Ha! Thank you for taking the
time to write.
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jerry
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hea pompano what would your system cost today?? thanks for the info jerry
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2frogs
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FISH....oh, do I love the sound of that! More good info. and thanks. Probably be asking you questions after my husband reads this Have a great 'sunny' day.
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eetdrt88
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the future face of baja??
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rpleger
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Atomics.....thats the future 
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Joelt
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I just bought a small system with 6 165 watt panels, 8 6v. batterys and a 3500 watt inverter with a charge controller for under $10,000. It should be
enough to handle our needs for now since we mostly only need refrigeration and lights. Just able to spend a couple of weeks at a time now.
Joelt
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Al G
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I expect the price of solor to come down soon.
They have just developed cells with output at twice the old cells.
As I remember there is a shortage of silcon? I may have heard this on this board.
Al
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Thanks for the Info. Skeet
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