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mtgoat666
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view    |   Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali    |   Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666    |   Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali    |   Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666    |   Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view    |  goat, you are stupid, 
 
if prop 13 gets rolled back how much will rents increase exponentially?  
 
the increase in gas tax is $5BILLION/YEAR which gets placed on the poor equally on the rich. all to fund a supertrain that nobody will ride to keep it
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Roads are funded by gas tax 
High speed rail is not funded by gas tax 
Get your facts straight  |  
  
 
Wealthy people can afford the high gas prices...... 
The poorfolk can't. 
Why do you want to screw over poor people?  |  
  
 
When it comes to income tax, I am all for progressive taxation. 
 
It is appropriate that heavy users, gas-hog (read heavier vehicles) and high-mileage users pay more for roads. 
People feeling pinch of tax can drive less, or drive more gas-economical cars. 
I notice the cheapest cars on market are also get super high mpg   
 
 
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In CA...there just might be enough funds to go around for a pothole or two  that can be repaired.... 
 
IF....CA could just slash HALF the $30 BILLION BUCKS a year on the care and feeding of people who jumped the fence. 
 
AND.....a train that costs BILLIONS...tearing up farmlands  |  
  
 
Goat, I see you quoted something and then realized the error of your thinking! Don't take my word for it, read up from Univ of Bing: 
https://www.bing.com/search?q=ca+gas+tax+diverted&form=I... 
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Don’t believe everything you read on the internet! 
 
It is amusing to find someone who uses Bing   
 
 
 
 
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mtgoat666
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by Udo    |  There has been lots of press on the California gas tax. Yes, I am in Ensenada, but one of my TVs is connected to the Los Angeles TV stations, and
there are a lot of ways that Gov.Brown plans to divert the gasoline tax away from fixing roads. 
I think that is why there is a movement to repeal the gas tax.  |  
  
 
Why aren’t you connected to South Dakota TV stations?   
 
If you watched less Fox your brain would have less misinformation  
 
 
 
 
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This pointless discussion keeps coming up...Gas prices in Mexico are what they are as is the exchange rate...Live with it...And the other? People who
live in California deserve what they get...Move if you cant handle it...
 
 
 
 
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Thank you for cutting to the chase............ 
 
 Quote: Originally posted by chuckie    |  | This pointless discussion keeps coming up...Gas prices in Mexico are what they are as is the exchange rate...Live with it...And the other? People who
live in California deserve what they get...Move if you cant handle it...  |   
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then again as Howard said.... 
 
"Not meant as a statement, just want to pass on current information." 
 
 
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I wonder what would happen if I had a new post that stated; 
Water is wet 
The sky is up 
Does a bear poop in the woods 
 
Wonder what would that thread turn into from the peanut gallery? 
 
This could be a first, no maps or missions in the conversation! Come on David, give me something!  
 
 
 
 
 
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so jerry brown doesn't have anything to do with the price of gasoline in mexico?  
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Welcome to California.......... 
 
Water is dry 
The sky is down 
Bears do not poop 
 
 Quote: Originally posted by Howard    |  I wonder what would happen if I had a new post that stated; 
Water is wet 
The sky is up 
Does a bear poop in the woods 
 
Wonder what would that thread turn into from the peanut gallery? 
 
This could be a first, no maps or missions in the conversation! Come on David, give me something!    |   
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Goat, its a work computer running IE and i cant make changes. Google will have the same articles on page one. 
 
 
 
 
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This should really get some of you lonely people all excited 
 
 
Here you go, something to argue about. 
 
ATM withdrawal at the Lays market in Loreto today came to 19.38 pesos to the U.S. $. 
 
Boy, if this isn't something to fight about, what is?   
 
Go at it! 
 
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I went to the ATM this morning and withdrew 400 dollars.
 
 
 
 
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I kinda see Goat's point.  Prior to 2010, the house I live in had an annual assessed property tax of $800.  We bought the house 2010, our property tax
is more than $10K.  My neighbors pay $800, I pay more than 10 times that.  There has to be a better way to make it more equitable. I certainly don't
get any more goods and services than my neighbors do, who have lived in the house since before prop 13.
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 Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama    |  | I kinda see Goat's point.  Prior to 2010, the house I live in had an annual assessed property tax of $800.  We bought the house 2010, our property tax
is more than $10K.  My neighbors pay $800, I pay more than 10 times that.  There has to be a better way to make it more equitable. I certainly don't
get any more goods and services than my neighbors do, who have lived in the house since before prop 13.  |  
  
 
Is it fair that your neighbors pay more taxes just because the market rates of homes sold around them is higher?  They have not profited from the
increased values, as they have not sold.  Also, the law allows the assessed value to go up each year, just not at inflated rates due to market
conditions. 
 
When they bought their house, it was presumably at market rate for the day, as was the price you paid in 2010.   How can that be reconciled? 
 
I do believe commercial properties should have a system of upwards assessment, so corporations don't evade taxes using loopholes.  Commercial property
values should closely reflect current market rates IMHO. 
 
John 
 
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mtgoat666
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama    |  | I kinda see Goat's point.  Prior to 2010, the house I live in had an annual assessed property tax of $800.  We bought the house 2010, our property tax
is more than $10K.  My neighbors pay $800, I pay more than 10 times that.  There has to be a better way to make it more equitable. I certainly don't
get any more goods and services than my neighbors do, who have lived in the house since before prop 13.  |  
  
 
Would be more equitable if everyone paid same rate, same cost basis.  If we got rid of prop 13, the lazy people that haven’t moved in a while would
pay their fair share for funding govt, and you would be able to pay less than you do now. 
 
Prop 13 is bad tax policy. 
 
But old people are the biggest voting block, and old people are the prop 13 beneficiaries, so politicians won’t touch the issue 
 
Is it right that you neighbor is using same or more govt services, and paying much lower taxes than you? 
No! 
 
 
 
 
 
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It’s life.  
Life aint fair.  
Get over it. 
 
 
 
 
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The Casa Cambios at San Ysidro on 12/23 was 19.005 per 
dll. to buy pesos. OP posts 19.43 at Loreto ATM, is that in the 
3% + range using an ATM? That is if one has a card that reimburses ATM fee 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
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with atm fees today... 19.01 
 
7000 peso limit 
 
 
 
 
 
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Is this a Donald Trump quote?
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Nope, the real world............ 
 
 
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Peso likely to continue to lose value as long as trump is president and he continues his anti-Mexico policies and tweets. 
But peso will rebound quickly as soon as it becomes clear that trump will be impeached or have to resign for his crimes, or if he has a
stroke/coronary due to his obesity and poor diet. 
 
So, don’t buy pesos yet, likely to get better exchange rate over next few months,... but as soon as tide turns against the short-fingered vulgar
man-child, buy pesos quickly! 
 
 
 
 
 
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“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.” 
 
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
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