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| caj13 
 
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| apparently NOAA & NASA in on the conspiracy! 
 
 dang guys go to the trouble of producing 10's of millions of bits of Data,  and found a time machine to go back and plant those fake data in published
sources in the late 1880 - early 1900's
 
 all of that to claim the earth is warming ,  and its caused almost entirely by Human activities - ie burning fossil fuels.
 
 https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/06/world/2018-global-temp-hottes...
 
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| willardguy 
 
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 make that NOAA......
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| MrBillM 
 
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| NOAH and NOAA 
 
 The former saw Climate Change on a level that the latter isn't likely to see.
 
 And, knew the reason.
 
 Or, so it's said.
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| TMW 
 
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 I won't disagree with what is said but frankly I can't get too worked up over 2 degrees in 138 years.
 
 "The average global temperature has risen about 2 degrees Fahrenheit, or a little over 1 degree Celsius, since the 1880s."
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| John Harper 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by TMW  |  | "The average global temperature has risen about 2 degrees Fahrenheit, or a little over 1 degree Celsius, since the 1880s." | 
 
 That does not mean the temperature rise in some areas of the globe may be more/less than in others.  Land masses v. oceans, poles v. equator.  And the
impact of those temps may differ in those areas as well.
 
 Same can be said about "average" sea level rise from what I've read.  Some areas have seen it already, others maybe not.  Places I have not seen, I
cannot say.  But, they say it exists, just like black holes.  If I'm going to believe astrophysicists conclusions, why not geophysicists who study
these things.
 
 John
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| BajaNaranja 
 
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 Data + dire warnings from scientific community = sufficient cause for reasonable people to at least be concerned.
 
 
   
 Or, "fake news" / personal anecdotes / cynicism / helplessness.
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| David K 
 
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 Who does Chicken Little award go to?
  
 From Wiki:
 
 Henny Penny, more commonly known in the United States as Chicken Little and sometimes as Chicken Licken, is a European folk tale with a moral in the
form of a cumulative tale about a chicken who believes the world is coming to an end. The phrase "The sky is falling!" featured prominently in the
story, and has passed into the English language as a common idiom indicating a hysterical or mistaken belief that disaster is imminent. Versions of
the story go back more than 25 centuries; it continues to be referred to in a variety of media.
 
 
 
 
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| Lee 
 
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 I know someone who I thought I knew well enough.     One day we were shooting the breeze and he tells me the Kennedy assassination and moon landing
were conspiracies.
 
 We talked for a long time and I asked lots of questions.
 
 Still like the guy, don't see him much down here though he's around, and think he's definitely a nut job.
 
 Right up there with DK and his politic nonsense.
 
 
 
 
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| bajabuddha 
 
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 Aw, Lee....... he can't be THAT BAD !!
 
 
 
 
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| bajagrouper 
 
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 All I know is one  day while fishing at Punta Chavato I was standing on a sandstone rock and at eye level in the sandstone cliff face imbedded were
many  sand dollars and fossil fish bones at least 10 foot above the high tide marks...
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| bajabuddha 
 
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 ... and there are marine fossils in the rocks of Mt. Everest..... here we go again with another pointless debate about GW.  Who ya gonna believe...
papered and degreed doctorate scientists who have dedicated their entire life to their profession, or a glorified sprinkler specialist who hawks books
to supplement?
 
 Peace, out.
 
 
 
 
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| blackwolfmt 
 
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 Only way I see too cease this disagreement of global warming is too ask NOAH too ask Katla to have a massive eruption and put good old mother
earth into an Ice-age, that will COOL everyone down
 
 
  
 
  
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 So understand dont waste your time always searching for those wasted yearsface up and make your stand and realize that your living in the golden years
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| Lee 
 
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 My friend or DK?     Believe in aliens myself never met one.    Don't think anyone would want to know if I did.
 
 Lots of goofy folks out there.     Glad I'm not alone.
 
 
 
 
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| mtgoat666 
 
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 | Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  |  | ... and there are marine fossils in the rocks of Mt. Everest..... here we go again with another pointless debate about GW.  Who ya gonna believe...
papered and degreed doctorate scientists who have dedicated their entire life to their profession, or a glorified sprinkler specialist who hawks books
to supplement? 
 Peace, out.
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 DK’s opinion about climate are vociferous, but not informed by study or research, he makes up scientific theories based on pics of palm trees in his
family photo albums!  And re irrigation he is Not a licensed plumber!  Does he even have a C27 license?
 
 
 
 
 Woke!
 Hands off!
 
 “Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
 
 “...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
 
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| drzura 
 
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 I don't know.. it was freezing all over the country last week.  But it may warm up some, especially after the top three Democrats in the state of
Virginia have been outed as racists and rapists.
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 How many eons have humans studied weather, wind patterns, precipitation, and more importantly the prediction of it?
 
 With all those eons of study what is the current accuracy?(I'll admit its gotten better within 3 days of the forecast)
 
 Weather data(climate science) has been studied through accurate instrumentation for how long?
 
 You want to really claim the "science" is settled?
 
 Here's another way to think about it....
 
 How much research has gone into human nutrient requirements with studies, double blind studies, 1000's of sample criteria.  How often do you hear a
study which was touted as the new gospel become refuted by subsequent study only years later?  Coffee, eggs, wine, etc....etc.....
 
 You really want me to believe the ""science" is settled?  Especially when there is so much political advantage at stake in bringing people to the
"believers" point of view?
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| bajabuddha 
 
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 Ain't it amazin' the people who denounce NOAA support NOAH?  (hint for the politically impaired, we lived with dinosaurs but they didn't make it to
the ark...)
 
 ..... Go figger....
   
 
 
 
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