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Sea turtles slaughter in San Juanico 
 
 
Made our annual summer trek to Scorpion Bay with the kids. Been here two days and have seen 7 dead sea turtles , too many skate rays, sea horses,
small fish ( halibut, corvina, s paper types). They are setting nets from the bay to points far and near. My little daughter was nearly in tears
seeing all the turtles. Overfishing to the maximum, went down to the beach and watched them unload the boats.  In short, there’ll be no more sea
life here in the next 2 years.  Sad. 
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Always look on the bright side of life! 
 
If they get rid of the sea life, risk of shark attack goes down! 
Exposing kids to the horrors of fishing and meat production will make them turn vegan, so live a healthier life!
 
 
 
 
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Well. That’s a reality. I forgot to mention listening to the pup seal stuck in a net screaming for help all night...... that was brutal. We saw him
in on the beach this AM too.  Dead. 
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It's Tragic ! 
 
 
It's unfortunate that the species will ultimately be driven to extinction.  One could wish for better renewable resource management, but that's not
even remotely likely. 
 
They DO taste good. 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by ocshredder    |  | Well. That’s a reality. I forgot to mention listening to the pup seal stuck in a net screaming for help all night...... that was brutal. We saw him
in on the beach this AM too.  Dead.   |  
  
 
Which beach? What point are you seeing all of these at?  
 
Where exactly did you see the dead sea horses, skates and turtles? 
 
Also, where did you see the dead seal pup? 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by ocshredder    |  | Made our annual summer trek to Scorpion Bay with the kids. Been here two days and have seen 7 dead sea turtles , too many skate rays, sea horses,
small fish ( halibut, corvina, s paper types). They are setting nets from the bay to points far and near. My little daughter was nearly in tears
seeing all the turtles. Overfishing to the maximum, went down to the beach and watched them unload the boats.  In short, there’ll be no more sea
life here in the next 2 years.  Sad.   |  
  
 
 
something just sounds a bit contrived with this story. It's sad if it's true but I just don't believe it. Was there 3 weeks ago and saw nothing of
this 
 
 
 
 
[Edited on 6-17-2019 by solosancarlos] 
 
[Edited on 6-17-2019 by solosancarlos] 
 
[Edited on 6-17-2019 by solosancarlos]
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But hey! They need to feed their families. At least that is the normal reason given for the rape of the oceans. 
 
  
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"unfortunate" ?  - it's tragic - and the blood in on human hands.  Shameful and preventable.  I would have been in tears as well.  Should have taken
photos and blasted on internet to shame them - report to PROFEPA.  They're not feeding their families with dead turtles, etc.  
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 Quote: Originally posted by solosancarlos    |   Quote: Originally posted by ocshredder    |  | Made our annual summer trek to Scorpion Bay with the kids. Been here two days and have seen 7 dead sea turtles , too many skate rays, sea horses,
small fish ( halibut, corvina, s paper types). They are setting nets from the bay to points far and near. My little daughter was nearly in tears
seeing all the turtles. Overfishing to the maximum, went down to the beach and watched them unload the boats.  In short, there’ll be no more sea
life here in the next 2 years.  Sad.   |  
  
 
 
something just sounds a bit contrived with this story. It's sad if it's true but I just don't believe it. Was there 3 weeks ago and saw nothing of
this 
 
 
 
 
[Edited on 6-17-2019 by solosancarlos] 
 
[Edited on 6-17-2019 by solosancarlos] 
 
[Edited on 6-17-2019 by solosancarlos]  |  
  
 
good call on the edit, first draft was pretty harsh!  
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haha, yes it was
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when net fishing begins is when we see more dead sea lions, birds etc on the beaches here in Asuncion too. But if you were there 3 weeks before the
nets were set you may not have seen dead stuff yet on the beach...so might be true
 
 
 
 
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Is using nets legal? I mean the kind set by the panga fisherman. I saw them used in Bahia Concepcion this past winter. 
 
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I am sure ocshredder just posted this to to insight all of you. NOT! Maybe he is a guy that cares about a place he surfs and maybe likes a lot. I have
saved a couple of birds from a net there years ago and was accused of stealing fish.  It was a 4 inch gill net. Killed most everything large and
small.   
I post less and less here cause of the crap that flies here. It's getting hard to find, peace, love and tacos.  HAVE A NICE DAY! 
 
 Quote: Originally posted by ocshredder    |  | Made our annual summer trek to Scorpion Bay with the kids. Been here two days and have seen 7 dead sea turtles , too many skate rays, sea horses,
small fish ( halibut, corvina, s paper types). They are setting nets from the bay to points far and near. My little daughter was nearly in tears
seeing all the turtles. Overfishing to the maximum, went down to the beach and watched them unload the boats.  In short, there’ll be no more sea
life here in the next 2 years.  Sad.   |  
  
 
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Sounds like Bycatch from net fishing ops. They toss the dead bycatch back in the ocean... 
 
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 Quote: Originally posted by MMc    |  I am sure ocshredder just posted this to to insight all of you. NOT!  
[Edited on 6-18-2019 by MMc]  |  
  
 
Insight perhaps...."incite" may be the word you wanted.   
 
 
 
 
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To answer all the doubting people I’ll try my best  
  Saw 2 dead turtles up past the last point on the beach, one dead turtle at 4th point, 4 dead turtles between 2nd point and down past the boat 
Launching     Also there were at least 3 dead seals down there too.  
 
Accordingly to the fishermen they started net fishing about 10 days ago 
 
We have been coming down for four years.  We truly love this place, the kind locals, the safety, but this is a very sad few days.  Like someone went
into an aquarium and killed everything 
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What's to DOUBT ? 
 
 
This kind of crap happens all the time and most ANYONE who has spent years in Baja has seen similar situations.  While many
will attempt to excuse or justify the illegal and immoral rapine activities, none have credibility in denying their
existence.
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No worries, folks....just the norm for the planet's decline....
 
 
 
 
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Sometimes I hate Mexico.
 
 
 
 
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It's not just Mexico....
 
 
 
 
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