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mtgoat666
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  | Wait a minute guys, I don't know anything about firearms, I've never pulled a trigger.
So......I have a question.
You're armed and come upon a roadblock that's obviously not law enforcement guys.
When do you pull out your handgun? And then what? Kill someone and hope the other guy doesn't have an AK-47?
[Edited on 8-15-2021 by SFandH] |
Well, if you carry loaded gun in your car in baja, military will put you in jail long before you ever encounter roadblock of bad guys itching for a
gunfight.
[Edited on 8-15-2021 by mtgoat666]
Woke!
Hands off!
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will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Wait a minute guys, I don't know anything about firearms, I've never pulled a trigger.
So......I have a question.
You're armed and come upon a roadblock that's obviously not law enforcement guys.
When do you pull out your handgun? And then what? Kill someone and hope the other guy doesn't have an AK-47?
[Edited on 8-15-2021 by SFandH] |
Well, if you carry loaded gun in your car in baja, military will put you in jail long before you ever encounter roadblock of bad guys itching for a
gunfight.
[Edited on 8-15-2021 by mtgoat666] |
Certainly don't keep it in the beer cooler, that's the first, and usually only, place they look.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Gunfights rarely turn out well for any party involved. Best response to armed robbery is to let them have the stuff. It’s just stuff, not worth
risk of a gunfight over a vehicle and luggage. |
Have you someone missed the videos that are playing every day right now.
Of ppl getting beat to the point they are unconscious and then kicked and stomped in the head after they are out cold?
You might want to pay more attention to what's going on now. Leaving your fate in the hands of a criminal's integrity is a dodgy proposition at best.
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RFClark
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John,
You might want to look into the reason for the 1911 .45! The Army issued primarily a .38 caliber sidearm to officers sent to the Philippines. The .38
round was problematic in stoping a large insurgent with a machete!
My then girlfriend (1970) shot a S&W .44 magnum because she said it would stop anything roaming North America. She carried it in her little black
bag along with her stethoscope!
So I think it’s a good place to start if you want to carry a revolver.
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RFClark
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Goat,
My Instructor said that a “fair fight” was one where your clothes didn't get dirty and you were a fool to engage someone hand to hand if you were
armed! He was a Black Belt and I was but a grasshopper so I listened to his words of wisdom!
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John Harper
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It appears not as bad as the "Chicken Little" media (both sides) has been clucking about. Have you seen/heard/know of any "crime wave" in your
community?
https://www.safewise.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities/
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | John,
You might want to look into the reason for the 1911 .45! The Army issued primarily a .38 caliber sidearm to officers sent to the Philippines. The .38
round was problematic in stoping a large insurgent with a machete!
My then girlfriend (1970) shot a S&W .44 magnum because she said it would stop anything roaming North America. She carried it in her little black
bag along with her stethoscope!
So I think it’s a good place to start if you want to carry a revolver. |
I have no plan to carry, never had the desire. If I was going to take something in my vehicle I would grab my bear spray.
But, I do have a choice of the Smith M29, Colt DS, Colt 1911, Colt SAA, Walther PPK, or Luger. Depends on the mission.
John
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Gunfights rarely turn out well for any party involved. Best response to armed robbery is to let them have the stuff. It’s just stuff, not worth
risk of a gunfight over a vehicle and luggage. |
Have you someone missed the videos that are playing every day right now.
Of ppl getting beat to the point they are unconscious and then kicked and stomped in the head after they are out cold?
You might want to pay more attention to what's going on now. Leaving your fate in the hands of a criminal's integrity is a dodgy proposition at best.
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usually thats cops doing the beating , but don't worry, unless you hve brown skin!
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RFClark
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John,
By carry, I mean close at hand. In California and Mexico Bear Spray is what’s close at hand always!
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Don Pisto
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pretty obvious we're well into happy hour!
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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JZ
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Let's save this gem.
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Tioloco
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LUDICROUS!
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If you can legally carrying a gun then you have an obligation to avoid trouble and should have the verbal skills to deescalate a situation, not be
confrontational because you have a gun! When your dealing with a meth fueled tweaker things can go bad fast and de-escalation may be futile!
Its called concealed because no one should know you have it, just glad we are all free to choose.
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| Quote: Originally posted by advrider | If you can legally carrying a gun then you have an obligation to avoid trouble and should have the verbal skills to deescalate a situation, not be
confrontational because you have a gun! When your dealing with a meth fueled tweaker things can go bad fast and de-escalation may be futile!
Its called concealed because no one should know you have it, just glad we are all free to choose. |
Right you are!
Like we say about the FMM;
Having a gun, it is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
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Don Pisto
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oh lord.....
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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Every once in a while BN has such a thread where we can watch the chest-thumping shooters tell us how they would Rambo their way out of hypothetical
confrontations.
While entertaining for a few minutes, the repetition of wannabe testosterone fantasies goes lame.
I would be interested in hearing from any Nomad who has shot anybody in self defense and how that event affected their life.
[Edited on 8-16-2021 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Every once in a while BN has such a thread where we can watch the chest-thumping shooters tell us how they would Rambo their way out of hypothetical
confrontations.
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Not to mention that a tourist can't legally have a gun in Mexico.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Every once in a while BN has such a thread where we can watch the chest-thumping shooters tell us how they would Rambo their way out of hypothetical
confrontations.
While entertaining for a few minutes, the repetition of wannabe testosterone fantasies goes lame.
I would be interested in hearing from any Nomad who has shot anybody in self defense and how that event affected their life.
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BN is full of septugenerian+ wanna-be gunslingers!
Tough boys!
Woke!
Hands off!
“Por el bien de todos, primero los pobres.”
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by motoged | Every once in a while BN has such a thread where we can watch the chest-thumping shooters tell us how they would Rambo their way out of hypothetical
confrontations.
While entertaining for a few minutes, the repetition of wannabe testosterone fantasies goes lame.
I would be interested in hearing from any Nomad who has shot anybody in self defense and how that event affected their life.
[Edited on 8-16-2021 by motoged] |
BN is full of septugenerian+ wanna-be gunslingers!
Tough boys! |
Some of us have carried a gun for a living and know that while you are entitled to your opinion, it is just your opinion.
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RFClark
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As I said elsewhere, every time I think about putting a gun in my car in Mexico I rewatch the last part of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Bear
Spray is as far as I’ll go!
[Edited on 8-16-2021 by RFClark]
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