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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 08:41 AM
Mexico warned to upgrade


Through State department backchannels, Mexico and France have been warned to upgrade security at their airports.

The terror threat now, is that of planes from overseas (and Mexico) coming into US airspace, that have had their security compromised.

The warning came with a blunt statement. Fix your security, or your country will be put on a list of " no accepts ". FAA would not allow any aircraft originating or touching down from such a country into the US.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 08:54 AM


Man, I hope not! One of the nice things about living in Mexico is not having to take off one's shoes to get on a plane. I hope Mexico tells the U.S. to take a hike! I don't know how you folks up there stand for all this crap. I will NEVER fly out of the U.S. again.



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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 09:11 AM
Nobody from here wants to fly there anyway.


Why would anyone want to go to a country as jacked up as that one anyways. Especially when most of the world wants to eliminate it.
I think it's best if all you gringos just stay home and count your money while you still can.
We will stay out of your country and wish we were you. But from a safe distance we hope.
Bon Voyage suckers.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 10:03 AM


I really disagree with your stance on America, but totally respect you on one level. Instead of just living here and b-tching about America while accepting all the services and "good" things about it, you actually Moved to a country you found more favorable. Bravo! I wish all the people here like you would do the same thing, you should be saluted. On the other hand when the going gets tough and you need medical attention you slither your way back up north, that would make you no better than the rest.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 11:09 AM


first of all i flew out of loreto a year ago and yes i did have to take my shoes off
and i dont see anything wrong with trying to help protect the country that afforded us the ability to to spend time and dollars where ever we want to its not a perfect counrty but it still the best bar none and yess ill wave the flag jelousy is usally behind those that comment negativly becouse they werent afforded the same birth right or prefer to live off someone elses sweat or between the cracks just an opinion




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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 11:10 AM


As a taxpaying U.S. citizen I have the right to accept, "all the services and "good" things about it" if I so choose. I also pay for medical insurance and would use it if necessary. However I find the level of medicine as practiced in Mexico to be more than satisfactory, so much so that I am considering canceling my insurance in the States.

Does that make you feel better? I wouldn't want to "slither" when I could slide.:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 11:20 AM
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Actually, it seems to me that the actual slithering is being done by the cancer patients coming south to get cured because their wonderful western medicine won't accept cures that actually work or they don't have insurance and can't afford to see a doctor. Unless of course they happen to be a prisoner for committing some sort of crime in the U.S..
This entitles you to the best of medical care the U.S. has to offer. By the way, are the doctors prescribing aloe vera yet. I doubt it bacause it works and it's free to anyone who wants to grow it. I expect it to be listed as a dangerous narcotic by the FDA for just that reason.
Yep, yall are better than anyone else on the planet and it certainly shows. You should be proud.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 11:33 AM


Ski Baja, you don't have to answer this, but how do you afford to live in Mexico? Did you make all of your money in Mexico and continue to enjoy the freedom from the fruits of your labor? Or, did you make some money in the U.S. and then slide into another country where that money is more powerful? What I?m getting at is questioning if you built your financial stability in the U.S. and then moved to Mexico, or if you built your financial stability in Mexico in the first place. If you did indeed make your money solely in Mexico, please state so, accept my apologies, and I will delete this post. But if you made your money in the U.S., please read on. We work very hard up here to provide secure futures of our children. However, the reason the world hates up is not due to our fiscal or even social values. It has to do with in part with our maintaining our domination of the oil markets, and to a lesser extent ? other markets, which necessitates our domination of whole regions of the world. If you are going to criticize how our country is faring, please criticize distinct issues and please offer ideas for solutions of how we can alleviate these particular concerns while our country can continue to build a viable economy that keeps us out of poverty and continues to prevent other countries such as Mexico from sliding into unimaginable poverty as the case in Haiti and Somalia.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 11:37 AM


Oh, I can't delete that thread. I'm posting anonymously. :light:
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 11:46 AM


In the past year I have flown out of Mexico City, Guadalajara, and San Jose del Cabo. I found the airport searches to be every bit as intrusive as anything in the US. I'm not sure if other airports in Mexico are not as thorough, or if the greater ease of entering the country is the point behind the US warning.
Frankly I want people searched, I want baggage searched, I want profiling even if it means giving up some of the freedom we have.
I'm moving to Mexico in a couple of years to get away from the rat race and to be with people that want the same thing. I'm not moving there because I want to be shaken down by every cop that sees a Gringo, not for the unsanitary conditions of a third world country, and not for the roadside attractions of South San Diego.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 12:00 PM


It seems to me like about 100% of the time it's an Anonymous person that starts crapola like this! The very first post has nothing to back it up and I choose to disregard it in it's entirety.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 12:30 PM
Financial stability


Hahahahahaha. That in itself is pretty funny. When I moved to Mexico, not that it's anyones business I didn't have a cent because of an ex wife.
I became one of the lead carpenters for the Titanic movie and did alright. Then, I had an exhibition of Titanic props and photos at the Rosarito Beach Hotel. Then I ran a couple construction crews down here (legally) and I write guidebooks that are on hold right now because of the changes being made.
Now I have started Baja Search and Rescue which has three projects going on. Assistance to travelers in Baja, providing the underpriveledged humans that don't benefit from the Gringo fishermen, windsurfers, and other lovely tourists, and educating the people about their environment as far as cleaning it up and maintaining it as the fragile strip of land that it is.
Graffiti removal is one of our ongoing projects but you will be hearing more on that subject later.
Baja Search and Rescue will be working directly with the environmental agencies down here because of our environmental attitudes towards protecting one of the last untouched areas and people in the world.
So, I guess you could say that what little I have was made down here. And believe me, there isn't much and it is spent down here as well. I can actually get something for my money down here because they don't charge 10 times what things are worth as in your country.
And besides, the food is healthier here so as far as needing american medical attention, I don't think so.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 12:53 PM


Your story is an inspiration. Money made from the Titanic set is, for the most part, U.S. money, but that is splitting hairs, really. You have the right to stand tall, but I ask that you please be a bit more conscientious when you criticize any country. Our world is a neighborhood and our countries are our families. Several things are going on in our neighborhood: Some family members are ditching their families for other families. Some are jealous of other families? accomplishments. Some families play ?keeping up with the Jones?. Whatever is the case with any of these families, snide criticisms alone will likely get nobody anywhere. Try to influence your neighbors by your own good example, for actions scream where words fall on deaf ears. Let peace be with you my brother, for everybody in my neighborhood is family.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 12:57 PM


Ski Baja, ex-wife took it all, now I know why you are so bitter.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 01:04 PM
Good point


You are right, that certainly was U.S.money which unfortunately I had to pay the taxes on. Thank you guys because you paid me well !
In spite of not having a name , your philosophies are quite human like. And I have many previous posts where I do try and spell out what I am trying to get across.
As long as americans think they are better than anyone else in spite of their ridiculous behaviour, I will stand my ground.
If on the other hand they begin to realize that they are no better than the people the U.S. Government is trying to wipe off the planet, or the tribes living in what's left of the rain forests and that every human can teach us all something, I would look at the americans with a new respect. Something tells me I won't be living that long though. Hope I'm wrong.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 01:38 PM
America has a huge problem on its hands


on how to eliminate terrorists from plying their trade on its territory. The problem itself surely has been amplified because of the way it has reacted during the entire rule of Bush's administration, and it could get even worse before it improves.
Despite Rumsfeld's stating today that much of Al Queda's network has now been disolved, how many more of them are out there to take their place?
Airport security has come a long way (and yet in some ways it hasn't) since the dozens of airplane hijacking incidents of the late sixties and early seventies; no reason for this progress to stop now. Inconvenient? yes. The possible alternative? you know the answer. I say, with much regard for the countries of France and Mexico, that they should renew their efforts to comply at their airports. They must - for commerce in general, for those passengers on the planes and the protection of people in the cities.
My sentiments may well nearly echo Dave's first post although I have an American lingeage of some 365 years. For now, I am happier here in Canada or in Mexico. Can anyone explain that?
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 02:03 PM


Sr. Ski, you asked if doctors are prescribing aloe vera, then answer your own question in the negative. Fact of the matter is, almost all of the HMO's now have traditional medicine branches, some say because they've been proven to work, others claim it's because of the high demand by the public, and to deny it would send all those dollars elsewhere. At any rate, the answer to your question is in the affirmative. Glad you're liking it down there. Wish all of our malcontents would follow your example.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 02:15 PM
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Other nice things about Mexico: not having to wear seatbelts when driving, you don't need two headlights on your vehicle, nor taillights of any sort. And not having to put away that Tecate when you slip behind the wheel is a definite plus. But to stick with the aviation theme, the point is not whether passengers in the U.S. put up with "crap" or not, inbound flights from Mexico will practice our same procedures when landing at U.S. airports, a much belated requirement, which makes me wonder how Dolt Bush could have made the statement in Chicago days after 9/11 that the "skies are now safe"
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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 03:34 PM
Comparisons


Try comparing your lovely country to a non third world country and see how you fair pickle head.:lol: And I do believe it was the malcontents from many countries that killed all the local inhabitants to form your great empire. Still going on if you hadn't noticed.

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[*] posted on 12-23-2003 at 04:17 PM


Ski Baja...Life is too short to be as bitter as you are. If you can't get past the problem you have with the U.S; you may need some professional help. Almost every post is negative towards the U.S. Most everyone one this board are from the U.S.

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