bajajudy
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Loreto
I just spent way too much time searching for the article on Loreto in which the author said that the name Loreto came from the laurel trees near the
mission.
We all agreed that those trees were in fact ficus.
Well, I was just reading "Miraculous Air" by CM Mayo and, according to her, the name came from the Latin for city of laurels.
She didnt offer any explanation as to whether there were any laurel trees there then.
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Judy
I believe that laurels are in the Ficus Family which in turn are related to the figgies.
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I always thought the name of Loreto came from Padre Salvatierra, and our lady of Loreto whose house had been (according to legend) flown to Loreto,
Italy by angels...
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I think elizabeth is correct
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All my non Baja Friends call it Lorado, that just peees me off. I try to explain, but they turn right around and call it Lorado again. They think its
in Texas.
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The book to get is 'Loreto, Baja California First Mission and Capital of Spanish California' by Ann & Don O'Neil.
However, the best account of the origin of the name Loreto is found in Graham Mackintosh's 'Journey With a Baja Burro' which was his 1,000 mile walk
to Loreto from Tecate to celebrate Loreto's 300th anniversery in 1997!
See page 18... The Italian coastal town of Loreto (south of Ancona) is where angels (in 1294) delivered the birth home of Mary, mother of Jesus. The
Holy house was placed on a small hill surrounded by laurels, from which came the future name of the town.
To authenticate this, the local government sent 16 of its most reputable citizens to Palestine. Months passed, but upon their return to Loreto (Italy)
they said all they found was an empty spot that heald the same measurements as the house in Loreto.... There is much more detail (such is Graham's
research)...
Padre Salvatierra chose the name Loreto for his new mission in California, as a most Holly site to begin the mission chain.
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My book is buried in the camper.
Will look up the exact statement and quote it. But that was part of it...the angels who flew the virgin mary's house to a place in Italy.
I thought when I posted this that I should have the book in front of me, but didnt want to forget to bring it up for discussion.
Not that I ever forget anything
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As I understand it---every town and city in Mexico has a Virgin of (name of town). These all represent the Virgin Mary. Thus the Virgin of La Paz is
really the Virgin Mary and so on. Please correct me if I am wrong. The Virgin Guadalupe is also supposed to be the Virgin Mary. While she was made
a saint in Roma, she is only believed in by Mexico. Recently, Juan Diego, the indian that found the flowers in the snowy mountains of Mexico was also
made a saint in the Vatican. She continues to appear in different places. For instance in a window in Los Angeles, in a potato in Constitution and
in various other places. David K. is correct in mentioning the book by Ann and Don O'Neil. They dedicated over ten years traveling to Spain, Northern
and Southern California and elsewhere studying the orgins and history of Loreto. It is probably the most complete and accurate book on Loreto in
existance. Ann is in her 80's now (or late 70's) and returns to Loreto on occasion. Don sadly passed away just before the book was finished. I
highly recommend this book to anyone interested in the history of Loreto.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The Italian coastal town of Loreto (south of Ancona) is where angels (in 1294) delivered the birth home of Mary, mother of Jesus. The Holy house was
placed on a small hill surrounded by laurels, from which came the future name of the town.
To authenticate this, the local government sent 16 of its most reputable citizens to Palestine. Months passed, but upon their return to Loreto (Italy)
they said all they found was an empty spot that heald the same measurements as the house in Loreto.... There is much more detail (such is Graham's
research)...
Padre Salvatierra chose the name Loreto for his new mission in California, as a most Holly site to begin the mission chain. |
Found this that sais that the first name was San Dionisio
http://sepiensa.org.mx/contenidos/h_mexicanas/misiones/misio...
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If you like Mexican art and culture, eventually you start to wonder about all of the saints and virgins. Hard to grasp it if you aren't either
Catholic or religious. There must be thousands of Virgins... and apparently all are manifestations of the Virgin Mary. She takes on different
personas in order to make herself comprehensible to people in various parts of the world and periods of history.
A novel by Carol Schoemperlen-- "Our Lady of the Lost and Found" finally helped me to "get it". Guadalupe is in the book, but Loreto is not. Nor is
Dolores, Nieves or any other of the Mexican virgins. Anybody know of a book of Mexican Virgins?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The Italian coastal town of Loreto (south of Ancona) is where angels (in 1294) delivered the birth home of Mary, mother of Jesus. The Holy house was
placed on a small hill surrounded by laurels, from which came the future name of the town.
To authenticate this, the local government sent 16 of its most reputable citizens to Palestine. Months passed, but upon their return to Loreto (Italy)
they said all they found was an empty spot that heald the same measurements as the house in Loreto.... There is much more detail (such is Graham's
research)...
Padre Salvatierra chose the name Loreto for his new mission in California, as a most Holly site to begin the mission chain. |
Found this that sais that the first name was San Dionisio
http://sepiensa.org.mx/contenidos/h_mexicanas/misiones/misio... |
That is true, Loreto was the name Salvatierra gave to his mission there, near the shore of San Dionosio Bay.
Since you are from La Paz, perhaps you know the name of La Paz Bay, before the mission's name changed it? It was provided by Cortes when he landed
there almost 200 years before Loreto was founded!
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Another good Book which has excellant Infrmation is; BLACK ROBES IN LOWER CALIFORNIA byPeter Masten Dunne, S.J>
Univ. of Calif Press 1968.
This book was published the first year I went to Loreto. Tio Don and I were partners in a Panga for over 10 years. He met Ann when she was walking the
Beach with her Father .Tio and Ann Drove his 77 Chev. Pick up all the way to the Panama Canal and back. I think he was 75 years at that time.
Skeet/Loreto
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Do you mean...
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Since you are from La Paz, perhaps you know the name of La Paz Bay, before the mission's name changed it? It was provided by Cortes when he landed
there almost 200 years before Loreto was founded! |
do you mean when he landed on May 3rd 1535 "Bahia de la Santa Cruz"
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Yes Ferna!!! 
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I read somewhere-or-other that Salvatierra had adopted Our Lady of Loreto as his patron, and it probably isn't a coincidence that the town of that
name is in about the same location on the Italian peninsula as Loreto is on "our" peninsula.
I once visited the Italian Loreto to see the chapel the angels had transported, expecting some sort of a daub-and-wattle hut. Instead it was a really
substantial building made of brick--those were mighty strong angels.
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