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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 09:31 AM
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What is the best way to get the smell off the shells and clean them
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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 09:33 AM


Soak them in some fresh water with a bit of bleach. Scrub them with a brush.



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 09:48 AM


Leave them on the Beach. it is illegal to take them.



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 10:02 AM


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It might be hard for you to belive but in Oregon it is legal. Do not rember saying they were Mexico
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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 10:54 AM


this forum is for Baja topics.

move it to off topic forum please.




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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 10:55 AM


Bruce...Are you the forum police?



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 11:05 AM


Bruce, you never pick up a pretty shell and take it home-- because that would be illegal. Right?



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 11:08 AM


The Shell police are monitoring this site as we type....Better hide em:fire:



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 11:39 AM


why not leave them there for every one to enjoy? it seems to be very selfish to take things from the place we all love so just one person can poses the object.

it starts with a shell then a cactus plant then the next door persons car. soon you will be robing banks and flying planes into large buildings.:o




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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 11:46 AM


Hey Bruce.
I want some of what you're having:P:P:P:P
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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 11:51 AM


Hitting those shots a little early? Must be those Mohammad cartoons....



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 12:01 PM


each sea shell represents the final resting place of a life lost at sea. therefor disturbing them in any manner is the same as desecrating a grave yard. it doesn't mater if it is Oregon , Baja or outer Mongolia.:biggrin:



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 12:18 PM


I keep breaking them when I walk on the beach:lol:



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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 12:26 PM


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I keep breaking them when I walk on the beach:lol:


wrap your feet in foam rubber and walk softly.




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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 01:47 PM


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why not leave them there for every one to enjoy? it seems to be very selfish to take things from the place we all love...


Not to mention rather shellfish too....:lol:
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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 02:02 PM


10 years ago, in Abreojos, you could pick up abalone shells and whale bones off the beach. You could also find arrowheads everywhere and I have seen collections that rival anything I have seen in any museum in Baja. Well, the abalone shells are being sold by the coop for various things, the whale bones are decorating various homes and the arrowheads are being smuggled back to the states to sell by surfers to financing their trips. There are laws against this, but no one to enforce it and like most things it will be too late before anyone does. Enjoy Baja, the Oregon coast or where ever for what it is while it is because there is no going back to what it was in our lifetime.
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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 03:37 PM


I'm guilty. I've got some shells.
Is that a problem? Is the law reasonable?

Maybe. On the Oregon beaches, it seems there is always a local up at the crack of dawn, basket in hand, scouring the beach for anything of interest that might have washed up in the night. The result is some really poor beachcombing.

But at least they are dead, inanimate objects. They will no longer reproduce. The taking of live molluscs, then treating them to remove any trace of life for the purpose of collecting the shell is another matter.

So, back to the original question:

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What is the best way to get the smell off the shells and clean them


Simple, just leave them where they are. They are not ready to collect yet.;D

OK, so, my question: How do they dry those porcupine puffers so they are inflated with the spines sticking out?:lol:
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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 03:56 PM
Puffer Fish


They remove the insides through a slit on the belly, then they stuff them full of sand until they dry, then sew up the underside. I asked a local about it!;D

Remember puffer fish are poisonous to dogs if the dog eats it!
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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 04:39 PM


Mexico hits Sea shells traffickers

Since President Vicente Fox came to power in 2000, 36,000 Sea shells traffickers have been arrested, among them top figures from almost all the cartels, according to the National Center for Analysis Planning and Intelligence against Organized Crime in Mexico City (CENAPI).

Furthermore, more than 2,000 police officers were investigated for corruption in connection with Sea shells trafficking, and 711 officers were ultimately charged with offenses ranging from receiving bribes from cartels to kidnapping and murder. The former state police chief in Ciudad Ju?rez is under investigation for murder.

But, observers say, these crackdown may have added to the violence.

Walters admits there have been some unwanted consequences to the arrests. "President Fox has taken an aggressive role which leads to ... power vacuums and destabilization, with one cartel attacking the other," he says. "In a way the violence is terrible but also a sign that the cartels are being squeezed by government."

Chabat says Fox has gone far in fighting the cartels, but not far enough. Fox, says Chabat, is like a "poor guy trying to impress a rich girl" - the US. "He gets a nice car for the evening, but does not have money for flowers." Fox, says Chabat, has arrested some of the top Sea shells lords - but is unable or unwilling to reform the justice or police system enough to finish the job.

US officials claim that the Mexican government's reluctance to extradite top Sea shells criminals - the way Colombia has - is hampering efforts. Colombia has extradited 173 Sea shells suspects since 2002, including many major figures, to the US. Mexico extradited a record 34 in 2004, but no major Sea shells lords.

"I understand the difficulty in extraditing nationals, but left in Mexican jails these people continue to run the show," says Walters.

"And the show," adds Ju?rez police chief Navarette, "is not a pretty one."




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[*] posted on 2-10-2006 at 04:59 PM
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Mexico hits Sea shells traffickers

Since President Vicente Fox came to power in 2000, 36,000 Sea shells traffickers have been arrested, among them top figures from almost all the cartels, according to the National Center for Analysis Planning and Intelligence against Organized Crime in Mexico City (CENAPI).

Furthermore, more than 2,000 police officers were investigated for corruption in connection with Sea shells trafficking, and 711 officers were ultimately charged with offenses ranging from receiving bribes from cartels to kidnapping and murder. The former state police chief in Ciudad Ju?rez is under investigation for murder.

But, observers say, these crackdown may have added to the violence.

Walters admits there have been some unwanted consequences to the arrests. "President Fox has taken an aggressive role which leads to ... power vacuums and destabilization, with one cartel attacking the other," he says. "In a way the violence is terrible but also a sign that the cartels are being squeezed by government."

Chabat says Fox has gone far in fighting the cartels, but not far enough. Fox, says Chabat, is like a "poor guy trying to impress a rich girl" - the US. "He gets a nice car for the evening, but does not have money for flowers." Fox, says Chabat, has arrested some of the top Sea shells lords - but is unable or unwilling to reform the justice or police system enough to finish the job.

US officials claim that the Mexican government's reluctance to extradite top Sea shells criminals - the way Colombia has - is hampering efforts. Colombia has extradited 173 Sea shells suspects since 2002, including many major figures, to the US. Mexico extradited a record 34 in 2004, but no major Sea shells lords.

"I understand the difficulty in extraditing nationals, but left in Mexican jails these people continue to run the show," says Walters.

"And the show," adds Ju?rez police chief Navarette, "is not a pretty one."

It is a good thing I never got addicted to "shell" It was hard enough putting MJ to my lips and not puffing! I didn't know there were so many "shell" addicts in the world:lol::lol::lol:




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