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MICK
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Location: Rio Hardy
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Mood: livin the good life on the river
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HAND
Getting there is ALL the fun!
Ok being here is fun to
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Oso
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Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: on da border
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Longest, most thorough search was a "pop-up" reten on the dirt road from just above Colonet to Lazaro Card##as (V. Trinidad) I guess that's not
supposed to be a "tourist" route.
Best experience was soldiers helping me change a flat at El Doctor on the road to El Golfo de Sta. Clara. The fact that my 20-something grandniece
was with me didn't hurt.
Never been present at a bust, but according to local papers quite a lot gets "decomisado" on Mex 2 just East of San Luis Rio Colorado, Sonora, mostly
semis coming from the interior headed for TJ. I'm sure it's a question of whose drugs get busted. They burn tons of it every month or so a few miles
from the house. The wind is never right.
The phoniness of the "show war" on drugs was illustrated a couple of years ago when the DEA busted over two tons of coke in a San Diego warehouse and
the street price did not go up. The effect on the market was inconsequential. In most major U.S. cities today, cocaine is "easier to find than
veal".
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Oso
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Location: on da border
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tomas Tierra
The dog thing is great...never had a problem as long as "big boy" was in the back..
Them: "?si muerdes el perro?"
Me: "Ya mordio" |
BTW, excuse me for nit-picking, Tomas, but you just said they asked you if you bite the dog. 
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Tomas Tierra
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Location: oxnard, ca
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Oso,
That's a sure sign that I need a Baja trip! Rusty spanish..
What they ask is...does the dog bite?
and I reply(I think)...He allready bit!
Ruff,Ruff
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bajabound2005
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Location: Punta Banda, BCN
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Our dogs have gotten us through the checkpoints and the border back to the US (oh, and Red Sox shirts help across the US border, too!). We have 3
mutts that travel everywhere with us. The Mexicans are scared to death of them (although they are all quite friendly!!)...and for the US they are
conversation pieces to get back in w/o questioning all that choriza in our ice chest!
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surfer jim
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Location: high desert
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Remember....save all your old batteries and give them out at checkpoints....
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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Maybe the army doesn't supply them with decent flashlights...
--Larry |
One of the guys told me that they're required to have flashlights for night inspections but the army does not supply their batteries. He said it's
frustrating for them.
We used to get asked all the time if we had batteries we would sell to them, and occasionally, a request for a battery donation. It doesn't seem to
happen as often now.
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Bruce R Leech
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Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
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Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Remember....save all your old batteries and give them out at checkpoints.... |
boy that is the Baja spiret
people like you are the reason for some of them to be sour on tourists
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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Dave
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Dude, make sure to say thank you.
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Remember....save all your old batteries and give them out at checkpoints.... |
Give them to your drugged-out surfer friends, instead. They, along with the rest of U.S. druggers are the main reason that you (and I  ) get stopped.
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A-OK
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Remember....save all your old batteries and give them out at checkpoints.... |
Give them to your drugged-out surfer friends, instead. They, along with the rest of U.S. druggers are the main reason that you (and I ) get stopped. |
DAMN..........
I'm 99.9% that Jim is joking. All you old birds get wound up too easy. Take a chill pill and move on to your next beating.
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Barry A.
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If Surfer Jim WAS joking-------
-----it was a very bad joke!!!!! IMHO. and believe me, I am "chilling", as I am sitting in N. California.
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Oso
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Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: on da border
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tomas Tierra
Oso,
That's a sure sign that I need a Baja trip! Rusty spanish..
What they ask is...does the dog bite?
and I reply(I think)...He allready bit!
Ruff,Ruff |
You were very close!
Just drop the "s" off of "muerdes" and you would have it right. You had the second part right.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Tomas Tierra
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Location: oxnard, ca
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GRACIAS MAESTRO!!
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bajalera
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Location: Santa Maria CA
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We arrived in La Paz yesterday after a two-day trip from the border, and what was notable was the complete absence of inspection anywhere along the
way--even though we were towing a boat and Steve's 4Runner was fully packed with stuff. Although Mexicans' cars and trucks were getting searched,
Steve was asked where we were going, and then we were waved right on through at every checkpoint, and so were other Americans we saw. That's never
happened to us before.
[Edited on 3-6-2006 by bajalera]
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Remember....save all your old batteries and give them out at checkpoints.... |
Thereby peeing the soldiers off so those of us who follow the "smart guy" receive the bad vibes. Gee, thanks. :>
I buy cheap Costco AA batteries in bulk and don't mind giving some away if the soldiers are nice. They're stuck out in the middle of nowhere in a
situation I'd rather not be in myself, and often spend the night doing their assigned job which requires a decent flashlight-- I've been asked to
bring down mini mag lamps (flashlights) enough times so that I think there's something going there on that I don't understand. Maybe the army
doesn't supply them with decent flashlights...
--Larry |
Not to cause a stir....but maybe it's those travellers who give the soldiers "gifts" that make those who don't look bad. Hey I understand the intent
but I don't want to feel compelled to hand over batteries, etc., on my way down. I do hand out candy (toostie pops) along the way, though. I've been
asked a few times for things and I politely say "No"
Just another opinion, amigos.
Zac
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Don Alley
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We just returned from a trip North and back, from Loreto.
First stop, north of Loreto, we were checked fairly thoroughly. That was the only place that checked.
Two curious things...
One small airplane that had landed on the highway, had army guys around it. I forget where.
At one checkpoint on our return, the young army guy asked where we had been. When we told him we were in the USA, he asked if maybe we had some photos
of our trip we could show him?
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Boston_Baja_Guy
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Hey Guys
I am new to the board, and have traveled down to baja about 5 or 6 times.
On our last 2 trips, we have made an observation.
Both trips had 4 vehicles.
Mine = A Somewhat Sketchy Looking Landcruiser with Limo Tinted Windows and a ton of gear on top
Friend A = Another somewhat sketchy looking Landcruiser with tinted windows and stuff on top
Friend B = Complete stock Jeep Wrangler with US D.O.D sticker on windshield
Friend C = Stock Toyota Tacoma Pickup Truck with US D.O.D sticker on windshield
For new years we went down to the Guadalupe Canyon Hot Springs (great place) and each time we hit a check point (going both ways), both vehicles with
the D.O.D stickers were pulled to the side and searched at EACH CHECKPOINT while Me and Friend A, which common sense by looking at our vehicles would
think we "should have been searched" were just waved through. Everything went fine and we were on our way in about 15 mins or so, but the checkpoints
seem to search any vehicles with US Military stickers.
Anyone else experience this?
[Edited on 3-6-2006 by Boston_Baja_Guy]
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Diver
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They know you military guys play with guns. That is primarily what they are looking for. 2+2=.......
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
Not to cause a stir....but maybe it's those travellers who give the soldiers "gifts" that make those who don't look bad. Hey I understand the intent
but I don't want to feel compelled to hand over batteries, etc., on my way down. |
I see your point. My experience at the checkpoints varies greatly, mostly depending on my attitude at the time. I don't like being
used or perceived as an object, as sometimes happens. Other times, I'm able to break down the soldier/rich tourist (?a poco no?) shells and make real
contact. Those times, I don't mind helping out that other human with whom I'm sharing a brief space just because we happen to have run into each
other on the road. Hopefully I'd do the same for you. Is that going to form bad habits? Dunno...
--Larry |
Larry-great answer...I suppose it all depends on the situation. The memories I hold closest from my travels are those involving the people I've met
along the way.
happy trails-zac
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Mexray
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The way I see it...
...is....well, I don't think we foreigners should feel compelled to hand out anything to the guys at the military check points. As Zac and others
have mentioned, it just creates an atmosphere for them to expect goodies from those 'rich' gringos.
While these guys might be in need of some add'l creature comforts while they are posted in rural areas, it's not our responsibility to see that they
get stuff from us - it's their own military's duty. These guys are not neglected, in my view, and are far better off than many of their fellow
countrymen. Many visitors bring goods for less fortunate types, clothes, school supplies, eye glasses, etc., etc. - which is the direction I believe
helps the most people.
As for flashlight batteries...hell, they probably just use them to search more vehicles after dark - let em' get there own batteries!
I much prefer to hand out a few cold drinks to those guys out working on the highway - they usually look like they need it.
I'd like to think that if there were similar check-points in the US, that I'd react the same about hand-outs...and then I'd move to someplace without
em' !
I have my doubts about the actual effectiveness of the Mexican check-points - but I guess they 'stumble' across some contraband from time-to-time. I
just wish they had fewer of them to deal with, I've never been really 'hassled', but whenever you have a younger gal in the vehicle with you, they
take much longer to check 'things' out! It can get to be a pain, as we all know.
I guess 'grin and bear it' is the best policy...
According to my clock...anytime is \'BAJA TIME\' & as Jimmy Buffett says,
\"It doesn\'t use numbers or moving hands It always just says now...\"
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