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bancoduo
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Lets cut thru the chit, All I want is the ski report
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Bruce R Leech
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84 inches base 48 inches of packed powder with 16 inches of fresh down powder over night.
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allanbartlett
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This is a pipe dream like most other Baja delusions of development grandeur. I can't see it getting off the ground.
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by allanbartlett
This is a pipe dream like most other Baja delusions of development grandeur. I can't see it getting off the ground. |
Your statement was not phrased correctly.
Instead of "pipe dream" you should have said SCAM. when the delusion turns to reality investors will have lost mucho $$$$$$$$$$$.
[Edited on 7-6-2006 by bancoduo]
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TMW
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["Don't see the "Rancho La Encantada" on the INEGI topo's of the area."]
Lou it's south southeast of the observatory by about 8 miles. Due east of Rancho Viejo (both of em). In the almanac.
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bajalou
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Thanks Tom - I forget the Almanac - usually just go to th INEGI tops
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Mexitron
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Yah, that looks like La Encantada Meadow...glad I got to play on the mountain while I did. It got its name because travelers trying to find it said
it kept changing locations...maybe it'll evade the surveyors too.
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capt. mike
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yeah Geo. - i am in!
this guy admits he's still chasing JV $$................never gonna happen.
but IF it did, sure i'd stay there, get out of this heat!!
we flew over it, the peak and observatory yesterday going to mexicali from El Socorrito at SQ. really nice country from 8500'!!
and made a pass over the Meiling Rancho too.
no more SOC for me for a while.............way tooooooooooo hot!!
but we caught a lot of Dorados!!!
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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Mexitron
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Hmm...a road in from the north would come through the National Park; and from the south--that's some serious country to put a road through--the
Sierra San Miguel, lots of $$$. I imagine they would use the existing road into the Rio San Antonio. I doubt it will happen though.
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Taco de Baja
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Something is fishy about this dude and the "development"
The text on the website is poorly written, it mentions the 'high speed internet' connection that all the cabins will have 4-5 times (1-2 is ok but not
over and over and over). Distances to various places are given in km in one sentence and miles in another (use one system, and stick to it, or include
both). Plus there are lots of typos, spelling, and grammatical errors?.
And then there is this statement: "Before the development of this Resort was started, less than 50 Americans were ever authorized to visit these
properties." WTF?  
Plus there are only few places where you can see the Pacific and the Sea of Cortez at the same time, and all I believe are in the Park. Yet he states
in the letter
?There are parts of the property that we will be building on that you will be able to see the Sea of Cortez and the Pacific ocean (sic) on a clear
day.
Interesting there are no maps of the development just general descriptions:
30 miles from San Felipe, as the crow flies,
50 miles from San Quintin.
70 miles from the proposed new sea port at Colonet.
Less than 10 kilometers from the Observatory
4 mile hike to Picacho Del Diablo (Oh boy, I can hike to the top of Diablo in the morning and be back at my cabin for happy hour! )
The nearest house, in driving distance, is 30 kilometers away towards the Pacific Highway, and they don't even have electricity or telephone
The meadow in the picture may be La Grulla, it is narrow than La Encantada?.BUT aren?t both of these, and the 3rd large meadow, Vallecitos, in the
Park?? Yet he implies they are all in the property with this statement:
?The property is at 6,000 to 8,000 feet in elevation, so it is about 20 degrees or so cooler than in the desert below. The trees around the property
are as much as 300 years old. The boulders that you see in pictures of the property are really granite. I have attached pictures of 2 of the 3 high
mountaing (SIC) meadows for everyone to look at. These two meadows range from 5 to 7 kilometers in length.
Plus, how did they manage to buy 73,000 aces? That?s 114 square miles or 295 square kilometers?.
[Edited on 7-7-2006 by Taco de Baja]
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bajalou
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I was wondering about driving to the Sea of Cortez after skiing.
No Bad Days
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Bruce R Leech
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I don't think you will need to do that bajalou if they put in the high speed monorail .
Bruce R Leech
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bajalou
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Good point Bruce that's the thing to use.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Mexitron
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Yah, well I thought something was fishy about Diamante Del Mar too...yah, you may be right about the meadow being La Grulla Taco--just sort of figured
they'd use the name Enchanted in the right meadow...been awhile since I saw them beauties. Still want to do a hike from the park down to Matomi,
then down Arroyo Grande.....still up for that Taco?
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Sharksbaja
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Is this guy a Canadian?
[Edited on 7-8-2006 by Sharksbaja]
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Phil S
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I ski there every winter. What about you?:
bancoduo. Glad I'm not the only one that's skiied those slopes. Easy to get to when your riding in "Tim Blixeth"s helicopter.
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bajalou
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JR's handle before becoming JRBaja was "Ski Baja" with a picture of him on skiis
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Barry A.
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La Encantada
I rode a horse into La Encantada for the day in 1954. We came over from La Grulla where we were camped for 5 days. La Encantada is nice, but not
nearly as nice as La Grulla, and it is so close to the eastern escarpment that the wind really howls thru there in winter, or so I was told by our
Mexican vaquero.
Access is going to be really a challenge, as you all say, it is surrounded by the pristine National Park. I think it is a pipe-dream, or at least I
hope it is.
The country is a lot like Pine Valley in eastern San Diego county, but is flatter as it is on top of a plateau. Lots of huge granite boulders,
something like Laguna Hansen, to the north in the Sierra Juarez, but lots dryer than L. Hansen----------still, it is nice.
At least that is the way I remember it (after 52 years????)
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Mexitron
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Wow Barry, that's great that you have such an early experience of the San Pedro. Did you ride horses the whole trip or drive up the old lumber mill
road?
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Barry A.
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Mexitron----------
We drove from Melings to the diggings at Socorro ("La Conception El Socorrito" in the Atlas), where the road got so bad that we parked there. Meling
Ranch supplied the horses, mostly to pack our gear in, but a few did ride all the way in. I walked to La Grulla via a steep trail that trended SSE
from Socorro to La Grulla via "El Potrero". We camped at La Grulla for several days. On day 5, I talked the vaqueros into letting me ride bareback
(there were no extra saddles) over to "La Encantada" with a few of the the "riding" group, and all of the vaqueros, for the day--------and it about
crippled me the horse I got had a prominant backbone---- the vaqueros got a big kick out of that, and of course thought I was nuts!
On day 7, still at La Grulla, we ran out of food (basically), but the vaqueros supplied us with fresh killed venison, so all was well-----I remember
they cramed the venison in their saddle bags, and we would pull it out and carve off a chunk-------worked just fine, for a few days. We were on the
plateau for 9 or 10 days, as I recall. There were not a lot of deer that we saw, but the vaqueros knew where to find them.
We went out to Soccoro from La Grulla via what we called "Vallecitos" (not on Atlas map-----in Atlas approx. at the junction of "Los Pinos" Creek and
the Observatory road----or possibly at "La Tasejera"---not sure) and then southwest [or west?, not sure] to La Corona, and down the existing 4x4
lumber road to Socorro and our cars. The "observatory road" did not exist at that time, nor did the observatory, but there was a crude "lumber road"
at least as far east as "La Corona"
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On that same trip, I hiked over to "Blue Bottle" with Bud Bernhard and gazed across the abyss to Picacho del Diablo--------deciding right there that I
would NEVER make it to the top of the Devil Mt.----a decision that I have always regretted. Bud went on to conquor Picacho many, many times.
A Picacho celebrity, Edward "Bud" Bernhard, was with us on that trip, and sorta our guide, along with the vaqueros.
Looking at Bud Bernhard's hand drawn map, I cannot be sure of the location of what we called "Vallecitos"----it is somewhere between "La Tasajera" on
the south, and "Los Pinos" drainage on the north. As I rememer it was slightly (several miles?) WNW of "Cerro la botella azul" (Blue bottle) and was
a huge dry undulating meadow area with scattered mature Ponderosa pine. I just remember vividly it was HOT and DRY, and not particularly
appealing-------but by then we were REALLY tired-----and hungry.
As you can tell, it is a trip that I NEVER will forget, and was one of the highlights of my life. Coincidently, one of my friends that went with me
on that trip was supposed to drop by here yesterday, but he never showed up. We are all "independent" cusses.
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