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BrianBenson
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Dawn Wilson Update
Does anyone have an update on Dawn Wilson? She was thrown in jail for having prescription drugs. Any update is aprreciated.
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Bob H
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Brian,
You can keep up to date at this link.
Bob H 
http://www.dawnwilson.com/
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JESSE
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If you cant do the time, dont do the crime.
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Edie H.
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PERSONAL MESSAGE TO JESSE CHAVEZ
Everyone here knows I don't post much but I can't allow you to post the kind of crap you just did about Dawn's situation! 
People went to you early on last year to see if there was anything you could do for her....lawyer referrals...etc. and all you did was say "I can't
get involved" but yet you have the balls to discredit her "situation" any time you get a chance. As a future cruiser to "your"
country, it makes me wonder why I would be willing to take the same chances as Dawn did.....maybe because I believe that the majority of Mexico & Baja
are beautiful places to visit with some of the most wonderful people you could ever expect to meet **********
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[Edited on 2-26-2004 by BajaNomad]
May the wind at your back not be your own.
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JESSE
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I understand she is your friend, but listen closely.
I am sick and tired of hearing how people get caught with guns, drugs, etc etc and suddenly just because they are americans they are "innocent", "they
didnt know better", "they where framed", etc etc. FACT is, it is ILEGAL in Mexico ( just like in most places all over the world) to posess controlled
substances ( in large quantities i might add) without a doctors prescription. Just like in your own country, here in Mexico you cant use ignorance of
the laws as an excuse to avoid responsability for your actions, THAT IS FACT.
I understand that ther are many Americans that get caught in legitimate wrong doings here in Mexico, and i am all for supporting and helping those
good folks that need assitance and dont deserve to be in those situations, but i have NO TEARS for those that clearly break the law, get caught, and
then cry out loud that Mexicans are evil, that our law sytem sucks, that our Police officers are crooked, and on and on and on, and what is the only
legitimate defense that they have for what they did? They are americans, and americans are innocent, they have to right? NOT!!! There are millions of
americans that are welcomed to our nation each year, we appreciate them, i believe in giving them all the support and protections that we have, they
are our neighboors, our friends, our brothers, and its very offensive to me to see how some play the " i am an american card" when they shouldnt,
because theres legitimate folks out there that REALLY need help, really where treated unfairly, and this is definately not the case, and i know, i
looked into it, i saw the court papers, i talked to high ranking friends in the Procuraduria, and i know what i am talking about.
Honest people don't get caught with hundreds of controlled substances pills.
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FrankO
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Since you looked into the matter exactly how many hundreds? Shoot, two bottles of one of my scrips would be 120.
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BrianBenson
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I understand it is a difficult situation however i am just wandering what the status. Is she still fighting it? Does she have hope? How long will
she be in jail? Where is her husband Terry? etc. Thanks.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by FrankO
Since you looked into the matter exactly how many hundreds? Shoot, two bottles of one of my scrips would be 120. |
Plenty enough to get you or me in jail.
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academicanarchist
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Story Being Discussed
I have not heard the story, and am curious what controlled substance this woman was caught with. I think there are too many Americans who go overseas
with an arrogant attitude about the laws in other countries and a belief that as Americans they should be immune from the laws of other countries. The
term "ugly American" was coined on the basis of the reality of a certain attitude. This is a belief that the U.S. government has fostered in the past.
If this lady was caught with a controlled substance that violates Mexican law, then she should be prepared to pay the penalty.
[Edited on 2-28-2004 by academicanarchist]
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academicanarchist
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Living Overseas
I lived in South America for a year a while back, and went knowing that I would be in a country with different laws, values, etc. I would add that I
did not have problems with the police during my stay there, and did not flaunt my being American.
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jrbaja
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Wow AA
yer awesome dude. And I was going to agree with Jesse. But, the original question is still unanswered. By anyone from here.
This is a tragic lesson and I hope that you people have learned not to bring back just a few illegal medications for your friends no matter who you
think you are... Dawn has.
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FrankO
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When I travel I keep my nose clean far more than I ever do at home.... even in different parts of this country.
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Stephanie Jackter
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Here's an A.P. article from a previous thread....
I think she got screwed. Just remember, all you sanctimonious, holier than thou types - there but for the grace of god might go you or a loved one
some day.
This is yet another case of corrupt cops asserting their power over a defenseless woman. And they even had the audacity to go clean out her bank
account.
She was carrrying seizure meds, for Christ's sake! Not exactly a member of the Cali cartell. Give her a break.- Stephanie
When the goin' gets tough, the wierd turn pro
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Skeet/Loreto
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Jesse
Jesse: Your post was well taken by this Poster.
The acceptance of ones Responsibility in any cultural is something that has been neglected in the teaching of our children in both countries.
Living in Baja for so many years I have learned that people there as well as the States United suffer the same fate when violating the Laws of the
Land.
It is just different in that we as Americans forget that in the present and the Past have done the same thing to many Mexicanos on our side of the
Border.
I strongly beleive that Responsibility rests with each individual to "Exercise their on Free will and Accord".
That failure is one of the reasons that the States United has become a Nation divided.
If this women has been found guilty she must serve her time according to Law,just as the Mexicanos who are in the Jails here must serve their time.
The climate here in the States has changed to an all out attempt to evade that responsibility no matter .
People in Baja seem to change to an attitude of "Getting More out of americanos" since 911. maybe as a result of the slow down in Tourism and the
intake of money prior to that Time.
I do know that there are "Good people" in both countries and we should all try to better understand each other instead of trying to always "Blame
someone else for our on "Shortcomings"
It is my hope that all people being held in Jails will someday be released and return to their families with an attitude of being a Lawful, productive
Human Being!
Skeet/Loreto
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jrbaja
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Excellent Post
to Skeet. Stephanie, I think your sanctimony, holier, stick your nose in everyones business attitude shines through more than anyones. Take this as a
lesson as to what can happen to gringos, Mexicans, or anyone who breaks the law. If this were Borneo, she quite possibly may have been put to death .
That is the law there. And if you don't like it , don't go. Same here.
As far as them spending her money, what happens when they bust a drug dealer in the U.S.? They take the money, cars, houses, and anything else they
can get their hands on. What's the difference ?
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Stephanie Jackter
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Are you kidding, JR? The difference is THE LAW.
If you're going to argue that she should spend 7 years in jail for carrying drugs she shouldn't have, which she bought LEGALLY from a Mexican
pharmacy, then you can't make a comparison to Borneo, where she wouldn't have been sold the drugs with state permission to begin with! Funny how you
areen't a criminal until you've finished paying the pharmacist.
You also can't say that the cops who spent her money were acting within the law of the land, so there's no excuse for them whatsoever, unless you're
into licking their boots (the usual from you), while you condemn a woman whose interchange with them began with one of the sleeze bags whistling at
her. Doesn't that give you the creeps at all????
As far as your post, Skeet, I think it says somewhere in that Bible you hold so dear, that two wrongs don't make a right. Because the U.S. screws
Mexicans that come here, and we do in many ways, doesn't mean that Mexico should be encouraged to screw Americans as well with our communal blessing.
If this woman had gotten caught with pot or coke, I would be just as hard line as any of you, as the rule of law would be clear, but I bet you won't
find one other soul in the prison she's in or any other prison in Mexico who got busted for carrying a three month supply of anti seizure meds. Will
ya?
This woman's whole life will be ruined by one small mis-step and instead of having any pity for her situation, you put your jack boots on and start
kickin'. What a shame. - Stephanie
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BrianBenson
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I didn't mean to start a war with my orginal post, all I want is an update. The website doesn't provide one. Any update on Dawn is greatly
appreciated.
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David K
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Stephanie... what do you mean by "the U.S. screws Mexicans"?
They sure must like getting screwed here, because so many of them are flooding north that we can't build walls big enough to stop them!
Yah, I guess getting paid in ONE DAY (here) what takes a week to earn there is really geting screwed!!!
That free medical aid, and instant citizenship for their babies is really screwing them bad, yah right.
My own 'amigo' flys Aero Mexico 3,000 miles to work with me digging pipe ditches and laying sod. He is away from his family months or years at a time
to stay and work here... Is it because we 'screw him'? I think not!
He, and the millions of others come here because they WANT TO.
WHY??? Because it is MEXICO that is screwing him and his countrymen from having conditions that foster growth, free enterprise, and a growing economy
(capitalism) so that they may work and live in the same area!!! I tell my amigo all the time that I wish Mexico would become as free and prosperous
as America so that I could travel to his country to work and live! If I did, I sure wouldn't be saying Mexico was screwing me!!!!
I think I will stop before pointing out how typically liberal it is to blame America, when through our prosperity, millions of dollars are sent back
to all those families in Mexico that would otherwise go hungry.
I do agree with Stephanie on the subject/ topic of this thread, however. The poor lady was arrested for trying to help a friend by picking up a
perscription... It is disgraceful for a civilized country to treat anybody with such lack of compassion. There is the 'letter of the law' and then
there is the 'spirit of the law'... How can she legally buy the perscription, but not carry it ouside the pharmacy? The police just needed a new
gringa toy? Why are the police in Tijuana so different from the otherwise beautiful people of Mexico?
[Edited on 2-29-2004 by David K]
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Stephanie Jackter
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Mexicans who are here illegally often get screwed by the government.
They can be held in detention for YEARS at a time with no constitutional rights granted to them for their defense, and then deported.
That is not to speak of the way that companies take advantage of their illegal status with the tacit approval of the govt. by paying them low wages.
There was even a case in front of the supreme court where a relative of an illegal worker took advantage of his good work for years and then when he
complained his wages weren't high enough, the uncle turned him in to get him deported. That kind of thing happens all the time. Our govt. takes a
stand against illegal aliens, but doesn't do a damned thing to prosecute those who hire and benefit directly from their cheap labor for their illegal
actions.
Virtually every time I've ever gotten into a conversation with a Mexican along the lines of "your govt. treats aliens worse than my govt.", the
Mexican's stories of abuses will win. I've learned the hard way to no longer enter those conversations with that stance.
Mexican labor is highly desired in this country and Mexicans highly desire to do the work, but make no mistake about it. They are treated officially
and unofficially as an underclass.
Last, but not least, yes, we are in full agreement that the spirit of the law was woefully misappropriated in this case.
.....And Brian, I think the bottom line is there is no update right now. If there was one, I'm sure her family would post it on the web site. Her
appeals have been exhausted and she is being left to rot in jail. But I'm glad you care enough to ask. Her attorney's name and number in Tijuana are
on the website Bob posted, but that looks like the only lead available as the message board function of that site is down.- Stephanie
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Thank you Stephanie......
for taking the time to fight the Good fight. I whole heartedly agree that Ms. Wilsons' plight is a travesty of the judicial system in Mexico.
I don't always agree with you but, I am glad you took the reins on this one.
Jesse, just exactly What did you see re: the "illegal drugs" she was carrying?
Jesse, does this mean that I can't take my American medications to Mexico? A one month supply of 8 different prescription medications would entail 270
pills.
BEDMAN
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