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shari
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Lobster buying/trading
Since it is lobster season, I would like to offer some sound advice about buying or trading for it. To begin with, it is completely illegal for a
fisherman to sell/trade you lobster...the critters are the propery of the entire coop, not the fisherman. It is a serious offense and they can lose
their job for that. You are supposed to buy lobster from the fish plants, here they go for about $10 a nice big lobster and they give you a receipt to
sh9ow in case you get inspected by the military or fisheries you can prove you bought them legally. On occasion there are military spot checks on the
back roads out of the beach camps just for this reason.
Now if ya DO decide to trade, just remember the fishermen get about $3 each lobster fro the coop so be FAIR...don't trade a can of spagetti-O's for 6
lobster!! Oh yeah, and most fishermen have tons of hats and t-shirts. Now, they will smile and accept anything you give them and when you ask how much
are the lobster they say oh no...no money....and some say...how bout a beer....so you hand them a beer...come on guys, give em a six pack at
least....just remember they are taking a risk to make you happy....also there are lots of places that poach tiny lobster and sell them....not cool
either...thank goodness they don't do that here and we still have a healthy lobster population. Try not to contribute to the teeny lobster
market....ok enough preaching....I just wanted you to understand the situation....happy holidays...
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comitan
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Shari
Not preaching, very good info, thanks for shari-ng.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Hook
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Great info, Shari.
And I agree.......dont promote the killing of undersized lobster.
This would, of course, rule all of P.N. out..............
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jimgrms
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thanks Shari that is nice info to know
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Al G
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Thank you, Shari You da man...oops...You da woman.
Don't know if I will ever get in that spot, but now a least I will not embarrass myself or others.
Albert G
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Cypress
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Lobsters. Seems to me that dealing with lobsters could get sorta "out of hand". You need a "bill of sell" for a few in-season legal size lobsters?  Hope I can get
a shrimp or two, possibly a crab without looking over my shoulder.
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pargo
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Do you all remember the days when you could go to Rosarito for a mega sized lobster meal? I haven't been there in years because the size of the
lobster were steadily shrinking. Do you think the poaching and over use of this resource has anything to do with that?
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Bruce R Leech
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what is the smallest one you can take ?
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pargo
Do you all remember the days when you could go to Rosarito for a mega sized lobster meal? I haven't been there in years because the size of the
lobster were steadily shrinking. Do you think the poaching and over use of this resource has anything to do with that? |
Absolutely! Many of us, including myself, has to share part of the blame. By this I mean through patronizing PN; not actually poaching myself.
My solution......I try and catch my own now, obviously not in Baja. Cant seem to find the size that allows for the bugs to have spawned at least once
(3 1/4 inches from the eye socket to the end of the carapice) anywhere in Baja.
I guess Asuncion is the place...................
[Edited on 10-17-2006 by Hook]
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Al G
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Shari...Will there be lobsters the beginning of December?
I hope,I hope,I hope,I hope,I hope,I hope,
Albert G
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The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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rts551
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Thanks Shari
We have the same rules and dilemma in Abreojos.
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Bajamatic
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Id say a beer dragged across many miles of scorching desert, buried in ice, and strictly rationed is well worth 3 bones, if not more, maybe 5 bones.
And by that calculation, a sixer is valued at 30 bones, which would mean that you are suggesting something that may very well lead to an eventual
economic meltdown for the entire pacific coast do to inflationary forces from the lobster industry. I'd say a couple of "sips" per tail is a more
healthy approach.
yuletide
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rts551
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Bajamatic. You obviously value your beer more than your lobster. In Abreojos we have beer stores but no lobster stores.
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Al G
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BajaMatic... I know where your economic miss calculation is...Ice. Ice is only required for weak beer ie...Bud, miller, Corona. Hardy beer,
ie..Pacifico..Indio...Nagro Modelo, you can drink at water temperature.
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Al G
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Forgot to use....
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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comitan
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Al
Glad you mentioned Indio I even like it more than Negra Modelo.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Al G
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At least Baja has a few good choices so you can move around a little. My mood changes so I change my beer as often as I change my shorts.
Edit: Make that Hat
[Edited on 10-18-2006 by Al G]
Albert G
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David K
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Thanksgiving, 1982 or 83... My parents and I went to Laguna Manuela area for some great surf fishing (what Whistler calls 'Variety Beach')... We
thought it would be perfect to have some 'Baja Turkey' (ie. lobster) for Thanksgiving dinner.
We first went to the beach at the lagoon where the pangas go out from and asked... Just one guy there and he said to go to the big metal building by
the Pemex station at Villa Jesus Maria (where Carmelita now sells tamales)...
The big metal building was a LOBSTER packing house... and NOBODY would sell us (just one) lobster for our Thanksgiving meal!!
So, 23 years ago we DID go to the coop's 'fish plant' and they wouldn't part with even one of the HUNDREDS we were seeing in there! Oh, and we were
being very polite and would pay any price...
So, I ask you Shari, is there a new rule since then that allows sales from the fish plant or is it a Villa Jesus Maria/ Laguna Manuela rule???
Thanks for your great post!
[Edited on 10-18-2006 by David K]
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Al G
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DK.. In Todos Santos the boats will sell fish, but every time I have ask at the weigh station I am told "ALL sold" Must be a hotel thing.
Albert G
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Bajamatic
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yes
| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
BajaMatic... I know where your economic miss calculation is...Ice. Ice is only required for weak beer ie...Bud, miller, Corona. Hardy beer,
ie..Pacifico..Indio...Nagro Modelo, you can drink at water temperature. |
but ice it down and you get to tack on a luxury tax to the value.
yuletide
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