Baja Bernie
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Statue of President Lincoln
Does anyone know the location of the Statue of Lincoln in TIJUANA?
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The Gull
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Third Circle
It is in the third glorietta (traffic circle) away from the border on Ave og the Heroes. 
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Baja Bernie
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Lincoln Statue.
Thanks much,
I go by there all of the time. Guess I'll just have to get my mind off the road and look up.
Now another question ===WHY LINCOLN?
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elgatoloco
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Maybe because he voiced opposition to the US war against Mexico??
I have always wondered as well. There is an elemnetary school in Rosarito named after him with a statue out front as well.
http://epwijnants-lectures.com/ps_abraham_lincoln.html
http://www.americanpresident.org/history/abrahamlincoln/
http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/aut...
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Baja Bernie
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His statue is also in Mexico City. Your thoughts make sense but I still wonder--usually people don't put up statues for things people did not do.
Well, one day I am sure one of us will stumble on the truth as that seems to be the way of Baja.
Thanks again
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David K
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Well, Mexico is a republic... and Lincoln was the first Republican president...  
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Some more info from the www.
Abraham Lincoln, Benito Juarez
These presidents represent the friendship between both sides of the border. Benito Ju?rez was Mexico?s president for a brief time in 1858 and again
from 1867 until his death in 1872. Abraham Lincoln was the President of the United States from 1861 until his death in 1865. Both presidents served
under internal national conflict. Lincoln led the U.S. Union in the Civil War (1860-1865) that clashed the North against the South. Ju?rez commanded
the liberation movement in the Reform War (1858-1861) pitting liberals against conservatives.
Though they never met personally, the common experience of leadership during fratricidal war bonded them as leaders. When Ju?rez had to flee Mexico
City in 1858, Lincoln sent him a message expressing hope "for the liberty of . . . your government and its people." Likewise, Ju?rez supported the
Union even after Confederate diplomats tried to enlist Mexico?s support for the Southern cause.
Lincoln and War:
In 1846, as the war was beginning, Abraham Lincoln was elected to the United States Congress. Lincoln at that time was a member of the Whig Party (the
Republican Party would not be formed for several more years). Lincoln was opposed to the war in Mexico. President Polk claimed that the blood shed on
territory that belonged to the U.S. and that that gave the U.S. the right to go to war with Mexico. Lincoln however, did not believe that all of the
territory between the Rio Grande and Nueces Rivers belonged to the United States. In 1847, he called on the President to prove that the territory on
which the first blood of the war was shed actually belonged to the United States. He also voted in favor of a resolution that declared the war with
Mexico ?was unnecessarily and unconstitutionally commenced by the President.? However, while Lincoln believed that the war was wrong he continued to
vote to send necessary supplies to the troops that were fighting the war. Lincoln was criticized for not supporting the war, both by Democrats and by
members of his own Whig Party, including his close friend and law partner, William Herndon.
As our 16th President, Abraham Lincoln is best known for preserving our nation and affording to all who were enslaved within our borders the
opportunities associated with liberty and self-determination. In a time of great adversity, Mr. Lincoln was the embodiment of the proposition that all
people were entitled to dignity and deserving of respect. Mr. Lincoln?s strength of character and wisdom make him the most respected of all American
Presidents.
Benito Pablo Ju?rez was the first President of Mexico and is revered as one of the greatest heroes in Mexican history. Educated in law, Mr. Ju?rez
instituted a series of democratic reforms in Mexico, which were the basis for the Mexican Constitution of 1857. Before his election, Mr. Ju?rez
established a government based on the ideals of freedom and democracy for Mexico.
Concerned for the safety of his family in the face of invasion of Mexico by French forces, then-President Ju?rez called upon his friend,
then-President Lincoln. At the time, President Lincoln was in the midst of his own challenge to guarantee freedom for all people in his nation.
Nonetheless, in recognition of President Ju?rez? efforts to establish a democratic Mexico, in the spirit of friendship and with an eye to the mutual
interests of both nations, President Lincoln gave shelter to the family of President Ju?rez and his personal protection in Washington D.C.
"The Lincoln Connection" 1865
"Honest Abe" Lincoln & the Mission
By Jim Graves, Mission Publicist
Abraham Lincoln has been a favorite hero to millions of American school children for generations. A man of humble beginnings, he was born on the
Kentucky frontier in 1809 in a one-room log cabin with a dirt floor. He had little formal education, but a great love for books and learning.
Lincoln?s career features many colorful elements of 19th century American life: storyteller, ferryman and flatboatsman on the Mississippi, rail
splitter (his cousin, John Hanks, referred to Abe as "right hand with an ax"), militia captain, postmaster, surveyor, and finally, lawyer and
politician.
He is credited with many virtues ? wisdom, compassion, gentleness, determination ? but is perhaps best known for his sense of honesty and fair play,
earning him the nickname "Honest Abe." Lincoln?s honesty would one day be of great benefit to Mission San Juan Capistrano.
In 1865, after many failed attempts to win elective office, Lincoln became the United States? 16th President at one of the most difficult periods in
American history. In the four years following, he would lead the battle to save the Union of the states, and end the injustice of slavery via the
Emancipation Proclamation.
On March 18, 1865, less than a month before the official end of the war, "Honest Abe" Lincoln paused briefly to turn his thoughts away from the
horrible destruction of the Civil War to Southern California, a serene part of the nation thousands of miles away from the bloodshed. Documents lay on
his Washington, D.C. desk authorizing the return of ownership of Mission San Juan Capistrano to the Church.
Lincoln knew the Mission had been founded in 1776 by Spanish Padre Junipero Serra, but was seized by the Mexican government in 1833 after Mexico won
its independence from Spain. In 1845, the last Mexican governor of California, Pio Pico, sold the Mission, to his brother-in-law, John Forster, and
James McKinley for $710. In 1848, the United States took control of California and voided questionable land grants by the former Mexican government.
In 1853 the Bishop of Monterey, Joseph Sadoc Alemaney, registered a claim on Mission San Juan Capistrano with U.S. Land Commissioners, including the
old church, clergy residence, cemetery, orchard, and vineyard. Two years later the Commissioners declared Governor Pico?s sale of the Mission illegal.
They ordered control of the property returned to its original owners.
For the next 10 years the Mission documents made their way through different departments of government, and ultimately came to the desk of the Chief
Executive, President Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln knew a gross injustice had been committed decades before when the Mission property was seized. He
readily penned his name on the documents authorizing its return. As was true throughout his career, "Honest Abe" had once again proved himself to be a
man of honesty and fair play.
Tragically, Lincoln?s life ended just a month later, on April 14, 1865, when he was assassinated while watching a play in Ford?s Theater.
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Baja Bernie
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Nice try David, but no cigar.
Elgatoloco, Thanks.
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Yah, Bernie.. that was too simplistic. I don't smoke cigars anyways... UNLESS that dictator Castro dies or is overthrown and the people of Cuba become
free... THEN, I will have a 'Havana'!
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