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El Jefe
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How we preceive one another
I saw the following paragraph from the latest article on FREDONEVERYTHING.NET today and thought it might stimulate some opinions. Fred as usual is
right on with his observations as an expat in Mexico:
Americans, here and elsewhere, usually regard Mexicans with unconscious condescension as a race of maids and gardeners. In the local English-language
fish-wrapper, the Ojo del Lago, one finds endless articles, apparently written by middle-schoolers, about how the writers just love the culture and
why, they just had some wonderful Mexican experience only the other day and just respect Mexico sooo much; the tone reminds me of admiration of a
collie’s adroitness with a Frisbee. They do not know that they are doing this. The Mexicans regard the Americans as helpless greyhairs who always seem
lost, and walk with the body language of a mouse in a herpetarium; Mexicans do not know that many of the gringos have had lives and know things and
were not always old and out of their element. It is an orgy of mutual underestimation.
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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jimgrms
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Never heard of fred on every thing ,,I kinda wonder who made him a spokesman ,for mexico , Fred is pretty much full of crap i will have to check
out the site ,
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Packoderm
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Full of crap? In what way in specific?
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bajalou
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Fred is a spokesman only for Fred. I've read him for some time and agree with many of his observations. Maybe because I too live full time in
Mexico.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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jimgrms
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Just checked out ol freds site (imho ) the is seriously deranged , he is like the dude in san felipe who was going to china in a boat made of
trash , i take back my full of crap statement ,he is really really full of crap , i am not skillfull enought with words to even try to explain
him his site has to be visited,,
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comitan
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Just says what he thinks in writing. Uou can agree or disagree I'm sure he doesn't care.
[Edited on 11-9-2006 by comitan]
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grover
"Fred, a keyboard mercenary with a disorganized past, has worked on staff for Army Times, The Washingtonian, Soldier of Fortune, Federal Computer
Week, and The Washington Times.
He has been published in Playboy, Soldier of Fortune, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Harper's, National Review, Signal, Air&Space,
and suchlike. He has worked as a police writer, technology editor, military specialist, and authority on mercenary soldiers. He is by all accounts as
looney as a tune." |
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On top of it, he's a Brother. Former Marine, Vietnam Vet with Purple Heart. I knew there was a reason I liked him. Uh-rah. (Did I spell that
right?)
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Baja Bernie
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El Jefe
I have written three books on Baja, it's culture, and it's people, both Mexican and gringo and I challenge you to read them and find one place where I
have treated my friends in the manner that you expound.
Tripe! Pure and simple. Sorry, but that really makes me angry. The guys knows nothing about Baja and it's people brown or white. Hey! Even green,
yellow, red or blue!
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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jimgrms
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Just spent some time on his site , he is a good writer .and i take back my statements about him beingfull of crap (sorry fred) but he is a
little twisted , maybe if i give him some time he will grow on me.
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DENNIS
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Oh Man..... This guy is new to me and I'm looking forward to meeting him.
Thanks for the introduction.
Do you think he has an opinion on the report that Nancy Pelosi doesn't use toilet paper? Anywhere?
People magazine quoted her admission to this Oriental technique, designed to facilitate a more fluid union with nature, while she was having her teeth
capped near her homes in San Francisco.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Oh Man..... This guy is new to me and I'm looking forward to meeting him.
Thanks for the introduction.
Do you think he has an opinion on the report that Nancy Pelosi doesn't use toilet paper? Anywhere?
People magazine quoted her admission to this Oriental technique, designed to facilitate a more fluid union with nature, while she was having her teeth
capped near her homes in San Francisco. |
I have a report on the above. What if it's true? Anything else about Nancy?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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DENNIS
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Well..yeah. She probably wont be selected Speaker Of The Out-House.
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Well..yeah. She probably wont be selected Speaker Of The Out-House. |
Yeah, well, if she's practicing Asian hygiene techniques, it's got to be good.
Speaker of the Out-House. God that's funny. I like original humor.
Anyone got any Rumsfeld humor? Got to hand it to those Republicans: they know a good turd when they see one. Losers one and all.
This country has got to improve with the losers bailing.
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Baja Bernie
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Lee
Talk about it in a year or so!
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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comitan
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Pelosi will be speaker of the house, yes we will find out how a strong principled women will run the house and confront whats his name starting this
friday.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Talk about it in a year or so! |
The majority of this country will be talking about it in a year and in two years making more changes.
Right now, I'd rather see money going to homeless and hungry in this country than to war. Just old fashion values that the Republicans lost sight
of. Think everyone agrees that that bunch got way off course.
By the way, I don't vote, so don't blame me. I do like Pelosi, though. When she runs for Pres, I'll vote. Watch out.
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DENNIS
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Lee ---
Why dont you vote?
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Lee
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Voted once -- that was a mistake
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Lee ---
Why dont you vote? |
I'll admit it. I don't vote. My wife votes for me. She's the political expert and has advanced degrees, and we're more or less politically
aligned. (She often says my vote would just cancel her vote as I'm more conservative.) I've voted once in my life: for John Kerry. I figured a
man with integrity and honor could lead this country. Then I got embarassed for him around how his campaign was run. And he kept putting his foot
in his mouth. I came out of my shell and got involved trying to keep Bush out of the White House -- and voted for all the wrong reasons. Dweedle
dum and Dweedle Dee is how I see the Dems and Republicans. Not evil people but serving up the lesser of two unappetizing choices. When I have to
go out of my way to block out all the negative campaigning going down, I'm convinced I have nothing in common with anyone voting for either party.
There are some people I trust in this country but the majority voting for Bush? Not me, who I am, and don't care to be around. When I see John
McCain (still a hero to me) towing the Loser line, supporting the status quo, feeding the public a pack of lies, putting Marines in harms way, I throw
up my hands and continue to say: the government is as corrupt and out of touch as it was when I was in Nam. And I got a good lesson on politics
back then and saw how things work.
Love it or leave it? I'm gone. And I don't love it. Ten years in Nam (10,000 day war) and we're doing the same in the middle east. This
country doesn't learn from it's mistakes.
Excuse my rant. Politics rub me the wrong way. And I won't be taking sides against my Brother/Sister Nomads.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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DENNIS
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Well said, Lee. Thanks for the answer. You have my respect.
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pacificobob
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nail on the head fred
i think he nailed it by coining the phrase"orgy of mutual underestimation".
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