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bajabound2005
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Those 3000 Soldiers Have Created Military Checkpoint Traffic Hell Around TJ
Made run from Ensenada to the border today. We got to the northbound border crossing at San Ysidro at 11:00 am. We were across in 16 minutes! On
the way, we noticed a HUGE southbound traffic jam on not quite the toll road but where the Mexical/Tecate highway meets up with the Rosarito/Ensenada
highway. This is before the first toll road. Then we saw a military check point set up and they had the southbound road closed down to one lane.
When we returned from our trip to San Diego at approximately 3:00 p.m. it was backed up way beyond the merge of those 2 roads. When we finally got to
the check point they had waved everyone through except one poor guy in his late model silver mustang. They were going over it with a fine tooth comb
while he kept his cool standing by. Then as we continued on to the toll road, we saw another new one set up on the northbound side, and several more
enroute including one group towing a boat. We were wondering if the nice new road from Otay to Rosarito has the same "delays". Anyway, this new
method of "battling crime" in TJ cost us a good hour in stop and go traffic. So, beware to all headed this way in the next few weeks! Be prepared.
[Edited on 1-4-2007 by bajabound2005]
[Edited on 1-4-2007 by bajabound2005]
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woody with a view
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GGGGGGGREAT!
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bajabound2005
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Oh, Woody, you'd better be on the road in the wee hours Saturday to make the most of your trip! Lo siento! But, at least now you can prepare for the
worst and hope for the best! Bien viaje!
[Edited on 1-4-2007 by bajabound2005]
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BajaGuera
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Took the Rosarito/Otay road northbound today - just as you reported - long back up southbound at two points and it looked liked they were setting up
northbound too.
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bajabound2005
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okay, so there's no way around this...prepare our fellow nomads!
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fdt
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Did the same thing went to US at about 10 and returned at about 1PM did 20 minutes and also noticed that the exits for Playas were blocked off but by
city police. Other than that Tijuana traffic was fine.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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bajamigo
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But seriously, if the purpose of the new checkpoints is to capture criminals, are the outlaws in Mexico so stupid that they would use a road where
there's been a military presence all day? It would be analogous to CHP announcing sobriety checks at Hollywood and Vine and continuing at the same
location for a few days. Sure would net a ton a of drunks.
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bajabk
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I just heard about this new road from Rosarito to Otay - I understand it is near the Fox Studios. Is the turn-off clearly marked on the toll road?
We will be returning for a short visit to the states in February and it sounds like the way to go to cut off some time going through TJ. Anyone know
any specifics? Thanks for any info. BK
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BajaGuera
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The new Otay road doesn't have an off/on ramp from the toll road yet. Could be anyday by the looks of things -at least on the northbound side. We
had to go up to Rosarito, then head back south on the free road. I don't remember it being that well marked on the Rosarito side - but coming into TJ
the road is well marked and the Otay crossing easy to spot.
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JESSE
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Checkpoints are worthless, i really hope they have something better up their sleeve. And i don't like the fact that Tijuana Police are working side by
side with the feds and military, because you can bet they are informing someone else about everything.
I want to see arrest warrants for narcos, crop destruction in the Ensenada valleys, and dozens of Tijuana police and State agents arrested and sent to
jail.
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DENNIS
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Yes sir ---
What about the private Zoos in the Guadalupe Valley? The exotic animals favored by cartel bosses? Just like the collection of animals owned by
Jorge Hank Rhon?
Why are they on the roads when they know where the real target is?
What a bunch of theatrics.
Mexico is just like Iraq. The enemy is stronger than the government.
Oh well, the government is who invited them in so they would add their riches to an impoverished treasury, De La Madrid style. It was a good idea
at first but the governmnt lost control.
So ... Mexico has an active, violent insurgency. Christo Akbah.
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DENNIS
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By the way.....
Jesse refered to the valleys around Ensenada. Valle De Trinidad is a war zone and has been for years. Evidently not a war worth winning for the
government but, a war worth playing with. A good source of revenue for all sides.
What an effing joke.
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Hook
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Just got back from two weeks on the mainland as far south as Mazatlan.
Only three military checkpoints in the 700 or so miles between the border and Maz. Only stopping cars headed north in the usual Baja fashion. At these
points, we saw lines of semi trailer trucks that were literally 1-2 miles long. But passenger cars, including us, were being waved through without
even a word of inquiry.
But the DHS boys at the border were certainly taking the job seriously. three hour wait at Nogales, mid-day, mid week.
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Minnow
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Hook, what road you take. We did 15 as far south as Los Mochis. Into the central valley, and over to keno bay.
Yeah, how about that 15 north. Baja people have no idea what a check point back up is. two miles of tractors, easy, 100 miles south of Nogales.
Jesse, you have been to the Real Cantu?
Why would you grow it anywhere else, and then have to make it across all those checkpoints.
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bancoduo
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I think you are referring to agriculture and commerce checkpoints. Nothing to do with drugs.
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Minnow
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Nope! There was all of those and the worst was the Military checkpoint as described by Hook and Myself. It is funny you think we don't know the
difference.
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Nope! There was all of those and the worst was the Military checkpoint as described by Hook and Myself. It is funny you think we don't know the
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I thought you might be confused. Kinda like going to Kino bay from Los mochis. Did you mean Topolobambo.
You could have been loaded up on yaqui juice. Just tryng to help.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Did the same thing went to US at about 10 and returned at about 1PM did 20 minutes and also noticed that the exits for Playas were blocked off but by
city police. Other than that Tijuana traffic was fine. |
here is why it was blocked in the morning
http://www.frontera.info/galerias/homeNew.aspx?numgaleria=56...
4 permanent roadblocks are set up, Playas, free road to Rosarito and El Refugio on the free road to Tecate, the 4th will be random on the toll road
Ensenada/Tijuana
http://www.frontera.info/edicionenlinea/fotos/Otras/92701.jp...
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Minnow
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by bancoduo
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I thought you might be confused. Kinda like going to Kino bay from Los mochis. Did you mean Topolobambo.
You could have been loaded up on yaqui juice. Just tryng to help.
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Yeah, you can't get there from there. What was the Christmas dinner like at the public library?
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Hook
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We took 15D down and were pretty apalled at the cost of the tolls for a simple two-axle vehicle. On the way back we took a chance on the free road
from Maz to Culiacan and that road is excellent and saved us over 20.00US in tolls. Some trucks on the libre road but lots of stretches to pass. The
toll plaza east of Guaymas is also easy to avoid by taking the free road through Empalme. It skirts the eastern edge of Guaymas and is very easy.
Did a sidetrip to Topolobampo from Los Mochis. Topo has to be the graffitti capital of the world. Seriously blighted area; we didnt even stop after
being turned around at the controlled access to the port area. Did eat at one of the many stands just outside of Los Mochis on the road to Topo.
Also hit Alamos and spent the night in the camper on a street just off the cathedral square. Very quiet town but hard to find a good bar. Eventually
found one at the Hotel Los Tesoros. Ordered margs and struck up a conversation with some longtime retirees who said we had inadvertently found the
best margaritas in town. Muy fuerte and the house pour was Hornitos.
Had lunch at a park in Ciudad Obregon. Very pleasant city, really very clean. You could live cheap in C.O.
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