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burro bob
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Hard water problems in the Ejido PNA
Very cold and windy last night. Everybody looked like they were going skiing.
This morning I awoke to find that the water in the dogs bucket was hard. I could set my coffee cup on top of the water and it didn't sink.
Has anyone ever experienced anything like this before? My 74 year old neighbor said he thought it was ice but it didn't look like that stuff that
comes in my margaritas.
What should I do? Will the water turn to liquid again? If everybody in San Felipe bought a global warming credit do you think we could go back to
wearing shorts sand t-shirts.
burro bob
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DENNIS
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Burro Bob ---
I think you've struck oil.
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woody with a view
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it's an illusion.....
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David K
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It was below freezing here in Oceanside, San Diego County Coastal area last night/ this morning!
The air was crystal clear... stars were beautiful... but too cold to stay out for more than a minute!
GO CHARGERS!
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Minnow
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Must be time to move farther south.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Sharksbaja
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babies, nuttin' but babies
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Cypress
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Ejido PNA? Where be that?
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MrBillM
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Cold All Over
This is the first winter in many years (at least 10) living in the High Desert (Yucca Valley) that I've seen temps in the low teens. If it has
happened more recently, I must have bee in Baja. Wish I was there now. This a.m. at 0600 it was 12 degrees. Our midday high under clear skies and
calm winds is 30 degrees.
This Global Warming is a *b-tch*.
[Edited on 1-14-2007 by MrBillM]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Ejido PNA? Where be that? |
Ejido Plan Nacional Agrario is the ejido in Valle Chico (the valley east of the Sierra San Pedro Martir, southwest of San Felipe. On the Baja Almanac,
the nearly abandoned village outside of Agua Caliente canyon has that name... The auto club (and my map) shows it as Agua Caliente.
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bajalou
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The Poblado is the area just west of Hghy 5 between El Dorado Ranch and the white water tank on the hill. It is the area where all Ejido members
have been given lots for homes. This Ejido is one of the largest in square miles of any in Mexico, extending from Hghy 5 on the east to the summit
of the San Pedro Matir mountains to the west, and from south of San Felipe on the south to Ejido Saldana on the north. A few years ago the government
allowed Ejido's to distribute land to the members, so now much that was communal land is under private ownership so if you're in the area, please
respect these owners land by closing gates and obeying "No Pase" signs.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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David K
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You are speaking of Plan Nacional Agrario, Lou?
What are the borders of Ejido Morelia which is north of PNA, correct?
Is El Dorado carved out of PNA?
Ejido Delicias is to the south, then Ejido Matomi which includes Puertecitos... I believe?
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bajalou
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Yes I am speaking of Ejido PNA. I don't think Morelia is or was a Ejido, but rather private land. When the Ejidos were formed there were many
parcels of private land surrounded by the Ejido communal land. This includes areas like Chinalito (Peac-ck Farm) and the area around it. My
description of area limits is not precise, but I believe it abuts Ejido Delicias on the south. It also had a strip to the beach possibly including
your Shell Island. And yes, El Dorado Ranch property to the west of Mex 5 was all Ejido land until it was purchased from the Ejido about 5 year ago.
[Edited on 1-15-2007 by bajalou]
No Bad Days
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Cypress
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Thanks for the information David K. and bajalou. Imagine this abnormal
cold weather is gonna zap some vegetation down that way.
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meme
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Was 54 degrees at 6:30 a.m. today herein EDR LVS.
Ice on the pond, well on my birdbath anyway!:
We also have never seen it this cold here in lsst 10 years.
BRRRRRRR!!!!
The SUN is MUCH appreciated these days!!!!
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David K
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EDR LVS ?
I can guess EDR is El Dorado Ranch, and LVS must be the subdivision Las (Something) South, but why the code?
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meme
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David it's Los Viejeros South. I'm bajalou's neighbor.
Did not mean to confuse peoole I'm just used to adding that to much of my mail.
BTW, I stand corrected (bajalou just called me on radio lol) It was 54 degrees
IN MY HOUSE this A.M> Much colder outside! Under my Palapa thermometer said 40 degrees at that time!
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Bajalover
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Darn cold. 25F in Borrego Springs at 6:38 am. Inside my airstream prior to turning on the furnace 37F - yipes! I need to pull my Coors Can south to
Bahia DLA.
Yeah!
Sometimes you really do question; why you are and where you are.
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Barry A.
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Borrego Springs 25 degrees??? Wow---
I hope it warms up by March 1st when we arrive for our usual months stay.
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burro bob
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Ejido Plan National Agrario
Ejido PNA is the second largest Ejido in Mexico in size. It is the largest in terms of hectares per member.
The Ejido PNA is subdivided into Groupos. My ranch is in Groupo Cahon. Just to the north of that is Groupo Providencia. I don't think there is a
groupo Morelia, definitely not an Ejido. Lou is correct in that there are several private parcels or Colonias within the boundaries of Ejido PNA. Many
Ejido members have parcels in several different Groupos.
Ejido PNA surrounds Ejido Delicias on three sides. It then goes on to butt up against Ejido Matomi. The area between Percebu and Campo Santa Maria is
Ejido PNA land (rapidly being bought up by developers) I am not 100% sure but I believe that the upper portion of Matomi wash is part of Ejido PNA.
Ejido Matomi goes all the way south to Papa Fernandez's on Gonzaga Bay.
The northern boundaries butt up to Ejido Saldana as Lou states. In fact some Ejido PNA members access their parcels via the road to Ejido Saldana.
David, the name Ejido PNA on your maps refer to buildings and improvements that the Ejido had out in the valleys at the base of the Sierra San Perdo
Martir escarpment. These used to be owned by the entire Ejido hence they got that label when the map makers were trying to give everything a name.
There are a couple of them. Also there are no abandoned homes or ranches in the Ejido. Maybe some that don't have people living in them full time but
they do belong to someone who goes there on occasion. And unfortunately my neighbor owned the parcel that has the access road to Shell Island. He sold
it recently. Expect a golf course there in the future.
burro bob
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David K
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Thanks Bob... great... and the water for the golf course comes from where? Oh, well... we can get there via the salt flat road from Percebu or Santa
Maria if necessary...
Did the village outside of Agua Caliente Canyon have a name? Is it 'Agua Caliente' as the AAA map shows?
In the late 70's and early 80's there was quite an active population there... people, kids, weather station, airport (dirt strip)... So, since then it
has been 'abandoned' or empty each time I drove through except for one family in the house on the corner of the road south to Matomi & the road up
to the hot springs canyon.
Hey, what's with the spelling of Cajon (Cahon?) in your post!?
Thanks for the input on Valle Chico!
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