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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 05:42 PM
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I'm a reporter with the San Diego Union-Tribune. I'm looking for people willing to share stories in which they willingly, or felt forced, to pay a bribe to Mexican cops to avoid traffic tickets.

I prefer to find people who filed some sort of a report with the U.S. Consulate, or through San Diego Police Department's program, but I invite others to write me as well. Please send a short synopsis of your situation, and when it took place to my email, or:

Anna.Cearley@uniontrib.com

I will be in touch and talk with you before we publish anything.

Thanks for your attention. Anna
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 05:57 PM


Welcome to NOMADS.....well, you sure came in here with a hot topic.....:bounce:

Just about EVERY person who has ever driven across the border should have some story to tell......:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 06:26 PM


Bordernews1 / Anna Cearley

Why are you doing this?
If your motives are unselfish, I will be your most vocal supporter. We have long needed a voice, such as yours, to air our complaints.
Are your motives supportive to the expatriate community?
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 06:48 PM


Response to Dennis...not selfish. Just trying to document this sort of stuff.
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:03 PM


How can you do a good job of reporting this way? it seems very irresponsible of you to troll for emails and posts to do research for a story to publish as fact. how can you possibly sort out the Truth from the fiction? I remember when reporters used to interview people face to face and verify the info before they would publish a story.



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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:11 PM


That's right, some people aren't truthful.



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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:15 PM


Kill the messenger.:no:
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:18 PM


Anna ----

Would you give us your Edress so we might authenticate your request?
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:21 PM


they are only a messenger. if they have a real message. otherwise they are roomer spreaders.



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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:34 PM


Quote:
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Anna ----

Would you give us your Edress so we might authenticate your request?
She gave it.:yes:
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:36 PM


I just Emailed her for authentification. If it's legit, she will probably respond here.
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:37 PM


Authentification.......... A new word
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:39 PM


Bruce, you are a bone head yet again.
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:42 PM


Soulpatch ---------

Bruce is always out of line if you're talking about his spelling but the context is usually right-on. He's just wondering if she is who she says she is.
Me too.
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:50 PM


Really Dennis?

Could a person do that here and expect to get away with it. Remember, email addresses are key to identity along with IP add.. There's only one way to find out. Actually there are a few ways.:yes:

Why would some imposter want us to email a reporter with related info. Makes no sense.

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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:55 PM


I just think trolling Internet forums for a story is a good way to get allot of response so a story can be slanted anyway the writer wants. no doubt she is going to get lots of people saying that they were bilked out of a lot of money. I have been living in Mexico for almost 18 years and have driven almost 200 round trips to the border and I have never paid Police bribes or bribes to any Mexican in that time. it is not necessary if you fallow the rules here. but by the sounds of her first post she is set on putting down the Mexican Police for something that is the fault of the people that pay such Police bribes



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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:59 PM


Hmmmm...?

......with this kind of reception I doubt that we'll ever see Anna Cearly again. That's a shame. I, for one would think having a source inside the Tribune would be interesting, symbiotic and beneficial.

Anna, I have had several encounters with Tijuana and Ensenada police. Most recently, We were approaching the border area, coming from the Toll road. At the bottom of the hill there were several officers redirecting traffic. They had orange cones haphazardly placed near the broken/dotted lines in the road. I was driving my 34' motor-home and towing a 4 X 4 behind. I looked at the cones and knew immediately that there was no way I could turn within their parameters, I knew it and the cop knew it. The Motorcycle cop looked up at me and waved his arms to encourage me to hurry up and move, I did. Right over the side of one cone. I saw it skitter 4 or 5 feet, across the road in his direction. There was nothing i could do to miss it, the turn was too tight and only possible for cars to make.

About a minute later that same moto cop pulled up next to me and motioned for me to pull over. We pulled off onto a side street, following his directions and parked. I opened the drivers window and he asked me to step out. He asked me to stay between the motor-home and the curb while he proceeded to tell me that hitting his Orange cone was a violation. I told the officer that it was a temporary placement item and placed in such a position that made it impossible for my vehicle to maneuver past. I also asked if it (the cone) was damaged, he said no, but that he would have to write me a ticket and asked for my registration, insurance and license. I returned with the papers and handed them to him. He walked back to his motorcycle. I waited, pretty much knowing the "Bite" was coming since he reminded me to stay here, between the curb and the motor-home, hidden from view of other vehicles. He returned in less that a minute, had his ticket book in hand but wasn't writing. He said that this ticket would be especially expensive since I was driving such a large vehicle. I stood silent. He looked somewhat uncomfortable. I stood still, mouth closed, eyes looking directly into his, waiting for it. We both knew at that point it was a Mexican stand off. Finally he said I would have to follow him to the station. I told him "No, write me the ticket and I'll pay it next week on our return trip". He said he would have to take my license. We then had a discussion as to what I would use for a license in the states. I told him I had a copy of and it would be no problem. At that point another motorcycle cop pulled over another vehicle and it parked behind me. My motorcycle cop looked at them and then at me and handed me my license, insurance and registration back and told me "Please , drive safely". I left. End of story.

I didn't pay a Mordida this time, but I presume only because I have had other encounters of this type and have a little more experience than others. I have paid Mordidas before and I'm sure I'll get another chance some day. And I'm sure I was guilty of an infraction on at least one occasion.

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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 07:59 PM


Oh, let me understand this logic? Let's not blame the kidnappers, let's blame the people who let themselfs be kidnapped? Is that how it goes Bruce?
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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 08:00 PM


How many times were you pulled over and then ended up at the station to settle up?



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[*] posted on 1-22-2007 at 08:00 PM


C'mon Sharky ----

Just sayed I Emailed her at her address. Im sitting here with a huge pot of coffee waiting for a response.
No response by tomorrow, we go to the Trib so they can tell Cearley that she has somebody using her name.
Best we can do without trashing Bruce.
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