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Pstreet1
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We're in and out of Rosarito Beach 3-5 times a week. We have never been stopped; we've never gotten a parking ticket; we've never been robbed. We
don't drive an old junker of a car and neither do our friends here--and none of them have had problems either.
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The Gull
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Good News
For those who enjoy Playas de Rosarito, we have just read some great news.
Dennis, Runner, Packy and Soulpatch will not be seen in the town ever again.
While we will all suffer from the loss of diversity that these fine Nomads could bring, it will reduce the traffic congestion including large,
multi-passenger vehicles driven by people who can't read street signs in Spanish.
As has been said many times before on this site, progress (civilization in the form of increased population and commercial expansion) has its way of
changing something forever.
If some haven't noticed, Tijuana is just about expanded its residential section to what was considered open land between Tijuana and Playas de
Rosarito - Cuesta Blanca. I suspect some of these Baja experts voicing their opinion on Playas de Rosarito don't even know where Cuesta Blanca is.
Just think! These same people will not be shopping at the new WalMart and Home Depot that have now purchased property to start building this year.
This isn't a one-burro town anymore.
Just a question for the enlightened Nomads...would you prefer that areas along the border drop into a desperate economic pit or become self sufficent
& economically viable? Why is it NOT OK for this population to want things they see in the US? Would you prefer that they cross (mostly
illegally) to be able to live a life that they judge is better?
I am not in the mode to defend the Rosarito cops. I have been listening to Gringos complain about them since 1968 when I first came to Baja. It is a
great American hyperbolic, ignorant pastime to villianize the Mexican "Federales" (which municipal police are not).
So let's raise a glass of Pacifico and toast those who will continue to pass the four offramps on their way to the "real" Baja nirvana, wherever that
may take them. Don't forget to stop at all the toll booths and do not take the 2000 road to Otay.
Saludos,
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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The Gull
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Excellent Advice????????????????
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
No, it's not typical of Mexico. Rosarito has gone over and above the line to establish themselves as the most abusive community in northern Baja.
The police are blood-suckers and the local government supports them. The local businesses tacitly support their abusive techniques as well.
Rosarito sucks.
Stay out.
Stay away. |
Take your vacations in Punta Banda and then buy a home there...wait a few years...and then have your home taken away from you by Mexican Soldiers
enforcing a court order. Dennis is sooooooo right, stay away from Rosarito if you want to invest time and money in Baja. Go to Punta Banda where you
can lose it all - quickly.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
In recent years I have steadfastly refused to pull off into Rosarita, given the general decline in ambience, the traffic, and most of all the reports
of "action" by the various police entities. |
When calling Playas de Rosarito - Rosarita - it is not a surprise that driving a 12 passenger van the wrong way comes so easily.
What fantasy world had Playas de Rosarito full of "ambiance"? Was it ambiance when there were no paved streets until 1990? If you define getting
stuck in knee high mud in the middle of town in your car after a rain - ambiance. Was it ambiance to drive 9 miles of the "Libre" to visit Puerto
Nuevo between potholes that could eat VWs? A few bent rims and many flat tires repaired in Primo Tapia at Llantas Molina would suggest lack of
ambiance.
Romanticizing third world squaler is a uniquely American delight as it supports some personal aim of being "above it all" as the New World Nobility.
[Edited on 1-30-2007 by The Gull]
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Baja Bernie
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Gull
Sorta funny! Forever Rosarito was part of TJ and then they voted to form a separate city.....................Now TJ has grown over the hills and the
two are, for practical purposes, one again and will remain so.
Not a small town anymore!
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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DENNIS
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I dont suggest that people should invest time or money in any part of Mexico just as I dont suggest they go to Las Vegas.
Punta Banda is a large place, much more so than the expropriated area.
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Packoderm
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I don't see what he read in my post either. I still stop by in Rosarito nearly every trip, but I do drive so sloooow. Its been at least ten years
since I spent the night there though. I used to enjoy the Rosarito Beach Hotel, but I don't feel the urge to stay there anymore. I think Bernie is
correct in it becoming a part of Tijuana, and I've never stayed the night in Tijuana before in my life.
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The Gull
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Bernie is right
Playas de Rosarito was part of Tijuana (governed by) before they broke off in the 90's. Therefore, everyone who stayed overnight in Playas de
Rosarito stayed in TJ.
Just because the two cities may get connected physically with their expansions, the city governments will stay separated and the revenues of each will
not be mixed together.
The rate of change in Playas de Rosarito has been accelerating every year since that event. The over-stressing of its infrastructure is obvious -
even to the most casual of visitors. With the financial independence came the predictable hanky-panky with the revenues for personal activites and
for the use of governmental power for selected groups.
In the history of growth of the United States, there are many examples of the conditions found in Playas de Rosarito. Somehow, Americans have either
turned a blind eye to their own shortfalls or they have corrected the situations - I will leave that judgment to the diverse assessments of all
Nomads.
[Edited on 1-31-2007 by The Gull]
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Pstreet1
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Gull, you answered beautifully what many of us wanted to say. The standard of living for Mexicans in Rosarito is, I think, improving because of the
Gringo presence, and I believe that for the most part they welcome us. They don't welcome Americans who are demanding and think rules don't apply to
them.
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SDRonni
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Holy smokes! I sure do hope things calm down and get safer by the time our condo is completed. Hubby's talking of putting the condo on the market
already.....we have so been looking forward to part-time retirement in Rosarito...all the news of kidnappings, etc. is really scary...
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Pstreet1
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It's not scary if you live here and aren't involved in the drug trade. We still feel safer here than we do most places in the U.S. (and that's not
talking about venturing into the unsavory parts of the cities either). You're going to love having a condo here. Where are you building?
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Baja Bernie
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SDRonnie
Learn to smile, relax, and enjoy the Mexican smiles you will find around you................Spend some time, learn about a wonderful culture that will
teach you that 'time' is only your friend if its passing adds to your enjoyment of life.
And don't try to drive from one end of town to the other on the weekends (Rather like Palm Springs used to be) or holidays far too many young gringos
making fools of themselves.
Don't venture to far to the east until you have learned your way around the main part of town and make your first trips there in the mid morning to
adjust yourself.............still very basic survival back up those dirt roads.
Disfrutar!
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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SDRonni
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PStreet1: Las Olas Mar Y Sol, just north of Rosarito Beach, immediately south of the Century Resort (formerly El Oasis), 3 miles south of the new
Trump resort. You familiar with it?
Baja Bernie: Thanks for the encouraging words! Much appreciated! I'll try to remember them when reading the negatives.....
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paul r
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I live in the "beach" and everything is cool..... baja rules!!!!
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Pstreet1
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Yes, we looked at models of Mar Y Sol when the model center was at Las Olas. We're at Club Marena, and have been for the past 8 years.
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Baja Bernie
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SDRonnie
Where the pebbles gurgle as the tide runs to and fro.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
Holy smokes! I sure do hope things calm down and get safer by the time our condo is completed. Hubby's talking of putting the condo on the market
already.....we have so been looking forward to part-time retirement in Rosarito...all the news of kidnappings, etc. is really scary... |
There are hundreds of killings every year in virtually ANY MAJOR California city. Rosarito is becoming a major city in Baja. Sad for some, not for
others. If selling is the right thing to do for you, it should be after you acquire some facts, not the rants of a few uninformed Nomads. I own many
properties in various places in the world, including California would you suggest that I sell those holdings in California with just reading the front
page of a major city newspaper? You know the front page - where all the gore and human misery is sensationalized to sell more of the fish wrap.
Are you selling your Alta California property?
[Edited on 2-2-2007 by The Gull]
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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The Rosarito bird is a flying plastic bag. Where is the Rosarito wastewater treatment plant? How is it going to handle all the development.?
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What about the thousands of people that cross the border every day, they must be really stupid not being on this forum and know what going on, just
think if they knew the border going north wouldn't be so clogged. All the restaurants,Hotels,Bars, etc. from Ensenada to TJ would have to close for
lack of business. They would also be just giving away all those thousands of waterfront homes, ok I'm done.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Where can you park your vehicle where you can see it? What does that mean? What you're saying is that in snake-pit Rosarito, your property is only
safe if you can see it. What happens when you have to take a leak?
Rosarito has more invisible stop signs than I have ever seen , or not seen, anywhere.
Yeah, Paris may have more pickpockets but the police in Rosarito dont have to do that. They just say,"empty your pockets".
I lived there for two years and saw my fill of police abuse.
Jeezo, you people who try to legitimize and sympathize with Rosarito cops are pathetic.
Open your eyes. |
A very reasoned response!!!!!! You would want the readership to know:
1) All Playas de Rosarito Police learn the phrase "empty your pockets" and use it everytime they interface with Americans. Specifically, when has
this happened to you and did you discuss this with the official in Playas de Rosarito whose job it is to protect tourists? Do you know where the
office is located? Did you discuss it with the District Attorney? Do you know where that office is located?
2) What happens if you have to take a leak? It might be adviseable to exit your car before attempting that activity. What were the years that you
lived there and how many cars of yours were stolen?
3) In all your experience in Playas de Rosarito what were the times you actually encountered abusive police or did your phrase "police abuse" mean
someone was hurting the police?
4) It is not surprising that you miss seeing the ALTO signs as your head is somewhere else and your vision must be impaired as a result.
5) Where is the Playas de Rosarito snakepit located? I would like to visit it.
[Edited on 2-2-2007 by The Gull]
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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