capn.sharky
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Any Beaches left in Baja
Just got back from Loreto where things are booming. Incidentally, it would be nice if someone would inform Air Alaska that it is called Loreto and
not Lorado. Loreto Bay is taking up a lot of beach down in Nopolo. A group just bought Playa Ensenada Blanca. Another bought Punta Bajo and still
another bought up Playa San Bruno. The Ejido is going to sell off its holdings on Playa Salanita. Seems like there won't be a hell of a lot left if
Fonatur has its way. I guess the baby boomers will be buying up everything with a beach before the smog clears. I keep hearing more and more English
being spoken in Baja, Ugh!!
And we complain about a few million Mexicans coming into our country......hah. Perhaps Skeet was right in getting out while the getting was good. As
for me, I am too old to start over again in another part of Mexico. Hell, I heard RE Max is coming to Loreto. Soon they will be putting in a
McDonalds and a Burger King. Yuck!!!
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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Von
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So funny someday the mexican president is going to wake up and take it all away.
As usual...ha! ha! ha!  you better be married to a Mexicana
cabrones...................
READY SET.....................
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Capt. George
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there is now so many gringos (with huge money and influence) that I think if Mexico tried to "take back Baja" they would wind up getting kicked out
themselves........bring back Teddy Roosevelt!
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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rbwrivers
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I hear sea levels are rising. Maybe if Mexico can't take Baja back Mother Nature will.
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rbwrivers
I hear sea levels are rising. Maybe if Mexico can't take Baja back Mother Nature will. |
Yes, buying 24 inches vertically above the highest tide would be the right plan for those who think in 100 year increments. I have a limited horizon
with my 50 year trust.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Don Alley
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Mmmm....McNuggets....Yum.
We went to Ensenada Blanca yesterday. No problem; the guards waved us right through the checkpoint with the intimidating signs saying "Walking Access
Only."
A visit to Puerto Escondido was tougher. Two big overhead "welcome" signs, but don't forget your wallet. The old ramp and parking areas are closed.
The new ramp area was gated and guarded. No admission without paying and launching. And then, DO NOT CROSS THE YELLOW LINE. You can't even go in to
look around, see the water.
I forgot to ask if they take American Express.
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Crusoe
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Don...Thank You for the report. As I understand the Mex. laws as to beach access, there must be an easment or "accessio corridorio" through private
property. Does anyone know where it is in Puerto Escondido?....or does Fonautur own the entire bay now and the land under it?
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rbwrivers
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My husband and I were in New York for a wedding a few years ago and we decided to drive to the coast in Conneticut since it was only 3 hrs away. We
live in Iowa and don't get to the ocean much. We couldn't believe it when we got there they hid the ocean. We had to drive through the whole state
and into Rhode Island before we could see more than private properties. Very Sad!!!
Organize and Fight, Save Baja!
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Crusoe
Don...Thank You for the report. As I understand the Mex. laws as to beach access, there must be an easment or "accessio corridorio" through private
property. Does anyone know where it is in Puerto Escondido?....or does Fonautur own the entire bay now and the land under it? |
Well, what I have heard is that the old construction left by the French company at Puerto Escondido eliminated the beaches for the specific goal of
eliminating any rights of free access.
There is undeveloped mangrove-lined shorefront in the back, but I don't know if the roads are open. I have been there by walking in from the Juncalito
beach side.
Puerto Escondido is primarily Singlar's (a division of Fonatur overseeing the Mar de Cortez/Escalara Nautica project.) It was described by the guard
as "Private Property." A small portion of PE, in front of the navigation light, is controled by BCS state-owned API and is managed EXCLUSIVELY as a
cruise ship terminal. They are waiting for their first cruise ship.
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Capt. George
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Organize and fight! you're kidding yourself. Did just that, and fought the US Dept of Interior....closely related to the Gestapo..
15 years, positive reports from, no less then, Columbia University backing our arguments etc., etc. Final result (even though there was a Covenant
attached to the original Deed of Conveyance) get lost, go bother someone else, and finally from the Dept....a simple answer, "SUE US!!!"
you ain't gonna beat em, they'll bury you with your own tax dollars.
good luck, count me out. george
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Skeet/Loreto
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Yes! there are many, many beachs left in Baja Sur.
Many will join the
Sheep" and enjoy the Crowded Beaches because that is what their Money can but, just like they have done in California and other places.
The only way to have peace and Quiet on a lonley Beach now is by Boat !
After leaving Loreto I thought long and Hard about a small Cruiser tp Ply the Waters of the Sea of cortez and its Lonely Beaches to the North. But
Alas !! That takes the Spirit of an Adventurer! Anyone can do it with that Spirit and Thought Especially between La Paz and Loreto.
I sometimes wonder if our Society in the States is producing more Wimps and Sheep, than Adventurers.. There are many Boats, very livable that can be
purchased for under a $100,000. So think About it, you Adventuers, if you want peace and Quiet, it can be had.!!
Go to  reto, Hire a Pangaero to take you on a 3 Day overnight South and come
back and report what you find--You will be surpised!
Skeet/Loreto
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Minnow
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I have thought long and hard about the cruiser idea skeet. The problem is slip space. That is when you are brought back to land to face the
realities of a growing population and the high cost of living near the water. I am still young enough that I have to work to buy the gas to put in my
boat. Chances are there will be no government gravy train when I retire. You guys got it good, or had it good.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Cypress
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Asked about the dock/slip fees for a 35' boat in Cabo harbor, guy told me it was around $800/month, power and water was provided. Not sure whether or
not it was added on to the fee or was included. The boat was chained to the dock if you failed to pay.
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capn.sharky
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Playa Ensenada Blanca better have opened the gate or Profepa will fine the hell out of them.. They have already been visited several times since
being told to put in a gate and they are being watched. All beaches in Mexico have to be open to the public from the low tide mark to the high tide
mark. Of course, if you have to fight with two or three 300 lb. Mexican guards to enforce your rights it may not be worth it. As for a cruiser,
forget that. Gas is over 7 pesos a liter now. Hey Skeet, us guys really had it good, huh. These young whipersnappers don't know much anymore except
computers. How many of these kids had to crawl under their desk doing Atom Bomb drills in school. We are lucky if we had a bike and a baseball
glove. Could it be those paper pampers they wore when they were young. Spoiled rotten if you ask me. By the way, did you know the guy that bought
your house in Loreto plans to tear it down and build a mansion in its place? I like your old house better than all the ritzy million dollar homes
that sorround it. Well, better go now and cash that hugh social security check the govment sends.
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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Capt. George
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lighten up sharkey, you'll soil your depends!
when it gets tough.........look at "your"memories of Baja.
I remember those drills, usually got a beatin by the nuns for "nothing" when they were cancelled....then I went home and my mother would beat me, it's
why my head is so large.
spaldine and a broomstick, what's a glove, in fact, what's a bike. Games? how about : "Hide the Baker" kinda like hide & seek, street kid
style....hide a leather belt, look for it, find it and beat the chit outa all the other as-wipes till they got to home base.........spoiled rotten!
Rather have grown up then, then what the young people are faced with today!!!
headin to La Paz booked a flight 2/28 3/7 Orlando to La Paz $450!!
The Real Captain (right Skeet?)
[Edited on 2-10-2007 by BajaNomad]
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Skeet/Loreto
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Now Minnow! You must be a young Person trained by Berkerly?
Govt. Gravy Train.?
Not me! I was 40 years old before I quite Working for other People. Had $16,000 {The first time I had seen that amount of Money in One Place} Invested
9in a Snap-On Tool Route--Worked 17 hours a Day for 10 years--Invested my money in Rental Property, cleaning up and re fising old Houses, Loaned Money
to the Mexicans because the Banks would not.
Fought a War in Korea at $46 a Month plus combat Pay. went to school on the G.I Bill at $120 a Month{Govt. Hand Out that was Damn Sure earned in
Korea}.
If you can't affor a Large Boat, buy a 31 Foot Diesel, that you can take out and Park on Land somewhere in La Paz. There are many good Mexicans that
will rent you a Place, then use your boat with out paying that Marina Fee. Wake up an Think. There are still lots of ways to get by.
Yes I do have a Govt. Handout- Soc. Sec. that I paid into since 1942-- I get the Grand sum of @ 650 Dollars a Month.
Last year alone I paid $85,000 in us Tax, and $16,000 in Calif. Tax just on one Sale of Property..Wake up Young One and start thinking "Out of the
Box". Forget that the Govt. Will take care of you!
Work, Think, Act, and save part of your Earnings for Investment!!!!!!
Skeet/Loreto
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