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Hook
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This outta increase the membership in HPYC by 100 fold.
NOT!
Is there anywhere else that charges a 20% premium just to pull up to the fuel dock in Mexico?
Don, are they still charging for simply ANCHORING in the bay???
[Edited on 2-17-2007 by Hook]
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wakemall
I bet the overflow parking spills out on to Mex 1. They will probably have to run a shuttle bus because of all the business.
This will fail just like the other issues at Puerto Escondido. You think the people at Tripui are going to pay this each and everytime someone says
the YT or Dorado bite is hot????
I do not think so. |
The people at Tripui? I don't think they are the targeted customers here. The issue is more than having to spend more money. It's about an
institutionalized change, dictated from Mexico City, casting the more middle class gringos aside in favor of fantasies involving waves of much
wealthier gringos, like those that will pay a few hundred tousand dollars for a 1,000 sq ft home with no place to park even a car, much less a boat,
and think they are getting a bargain, in on the ground floor.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Don, are they still charging for simply ANCHORING in the bay???
[Edited on 2-17-2007 by Hook] |
It's free only if you anchor in the outer bay (the Waiting Room). Inside, you pay the mooring fee. There are lots of boats anchored in the waiting
room, but if you look at the picture of the ramp you can see there are few boats inside where you pay to moor.
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Mike Supino
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So, you can store a 25 footer here, and if you launch 15 days a month, cost is about $1000US per month. |
Plus Tax!!!!
Therianthropic
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| Quote: | Originally posted by QuePasaBaja
I have never been able to figure out why people try to make thier lifes income off of a single customer. When they could make 3 life's income, but
lowering the rates, and having 100 times the customers. |
A friend of mine (Mexican National) thought that raising the price of her tacos was the way to increase income!!!   
Therianthropic
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Capt. George
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There are still not an awful lot of different "last names" in Baja.
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Dave
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And almost zero inventory
| Quote: | Originally posted by QuePasaBaja
I have never been able to figure out why people try to make thier lifes income off of a single customer. When they could make 3 life's income, but
lowering the rates, and having 100 times the customers. |
Wuzzahmatter, you stupid or somethin' ?
A $100 to make one taco or make 100 tacos for $1 each.
I know which I'd choose. 
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BornFisher
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And all this, and more, at the following great low prices:
What? Mooring boys?? What kind of fishermen do they think we are????
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backninedan
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The kind with lots of cash!!
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Bob H
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How much is the TAX anyway?
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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abreojos
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Mexican mathamatics! 1+1 never = 2?
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Who the hell is Singlar? Is this part of Vincente Fox's Escalera Marina? My understanding was that the launch ramp was owned by the tenants of
Tripui Trailer Park. Seems like Cabo is reaching North. I guess if we want to see a real Mexican town we will soon have to go to Los Angeles or
Santa Ana.
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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Sallysouth
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Capt., I was wondering the same things! I do remember when the tenants of Tripui built that ramp but from these pics here, thngs sure have changed!And
yeah, who the hell IS Singlar????
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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So what happened to the old ramp? The one shown in the picture is 250 to 300 yards {north?ward}from where the old one was. At least that's the way
it looks as I recognize the view as being where the first of the old canals(?) were and close to the fuel dock.
PS Hi Sally --- hope your back to peak form
Yours truely 'yellow tipped reefrocket'
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Phil S
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Wendy & I drove out to Puerto Escondido yesturday. I stopped at the "guard house" (security person) told him I wanted to tour & get prices.
He called on a handheld to the office, then said, o.k. to go. So drove to the area of the three new buildings on the seawall just south of the Pemex
marine station. Parked and walked up the stairs to the second floor of the three story building. All glass. It's all offices. Three ladies were busy
doing something. One gave me a short tour. We walked to the furthest two story building. Guess what!!!!A swimming pool and jacuzzi with a sun shade
over them. No water yet. No customers yet I guess. The lower part of the building is set up for businesses. The second building between the
swimming pool building & 3 story office building is set up for conference center facility from what I can see. Then we drove over to the launch
ramp. (by the way. The old ramp & parking lot is now Gated & Closed!!!!!
Also the little parking lot next to it that you could park & fish off the seawall is now gated & closed!!!!?????!!!!!) They still haven't
figured out that a wooden dock that you could tie up to after you got the boat launched while you drove the truck back to the parking lot would sure
be nice. More critical for the person who is by himself. But then again, I noticed that if you are with someone, you've got to be in the boat with it
running, waiting for the driver to park & return. Here is where visual gives you two options. One. You have to climb down the sea wall on a
stainless steel ladder to the boat where there are NO bumpers secured to the wall, which is a way from the ramp. Just cement to scrape against. OR,
if they will let you you can motor over to the Pemex wooden dock which looks maybe 40 feet long.
I didn't see anyone to ask that question. In all fairness in how they have so far done "all of this improvement", I'd have to say the dock isn't
available to the fishermen. Anyone know for sure????
Then we saw a new completed large tall metal structure near the old condo's that never got finished. It looks like it could hold maybe six or seven
boats under cover. But no doors to protect against hurricane & rain. Just a roof & walls.
Oh yes. After clearing the first security person to enter the complex, you will also have to clear the "compound" where the ramp is and parking lot.
This person I would presume would collect the fees going in & out. And as a final salute to their ingenuity, the outside wall guard stops you on
the way out and with a clipboard records the license number I guess & asks my first name.???? Maybe they are recording the plate information like
what state the vehicle is from. Got to say that this complex is well thought out including the huge 4 wheel boat lift vehicle. All the cement
paving, etc. All they need now are boats, boats, boats in the 100' class and up to make it pay for itself. Worth a drive into to see.
[Edited on 2-21-2007 by Phil S]
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backninedan
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Phil, did you get the prices? There was a rumor going around that they may lower the prices a bit. Not likely but worth asking>
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Phil S
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Dan. The prices were posted on the entry gate house window, but Baja brain keeps me from remembering. Seems like Wendy said something about $28.00
This is high enough to make the Tripui boaters to drive to town & launch at their free ramp. I think they should. That might get their
attention. It's logic to spend tens of thousands of dollars, and try to recover it via "reasonable fees". If anyone can afford a $30,000 boat
outfit, what the heck is $28.00 for crying out loud? Even if it's five days a week. Wonder what it costs to take a family of five to the movies in
the states five days a week?????
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
Dan. The prices were posted on the entry gate house window, but Baja brain keeps me from remembering. Seems like Wendy said something about $28.00
This is high enough to make the Tripui boaters to drive to town & launch at their free ramp. I think they should. That might get their
attention. It's logic to spend tens of thousands of dollars, and try to recover it via "reasonable fees". If anyone can afford a $30,000 boat
outfit, what the heck is $28.00 for crying out loud? Even if it's five days a week. Wonder what it costs to take a family of five to the movies in
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Ok, first, "reasonable fees." From what I can find out, launch fees on the west coast seem to run mostly from zero to $10 total. I don't think many
people object to a truly reasonable fee.
Second, If you want to use fees to recover the (questionable?) expenditure of building unneeded duplicate facilities, at least provide reasonable
service to go with it. Better, not worse, access, more, not less, parking. And a boat dock too.
As for those who can afford a $30,000 boat, or any boat... the personal impact of $28 additional per day would vary; some would be impacted more than
others. But it would be just another in a growing number of adjustments that will redraw boundaries of who can and cannot continue to live here,
Mexican or gringo. But what I find most objectionable is an attitude of "These gringos are all rich, lets get as much as we can." I think it shows a
lack of respect. And I think it comes from bureaucrats in Mexico City and benefits no one and harms many, especially local Mexican citizens, who,
incidently, are being eliminated from Puerto Escondido in any capacity except as workers.
It may be much like the Fonatur-owned Chili Wili location, once a Mexican owned restaurant that provided jobs and income, now an empty derelict that
houses only a Fonatur fantasy of a "four star" restaurant charging excessive prices and paying Fonatur $4000US a month rent.
Oh, and as for a family of five seeing five movies a week, I assume that includes popcorn, soda and a box of Milk Duds per person. I'd guess 400-500 a
week. Buying a home was cheaper. Of course, if Fonatur or their subsidiary Singlar opens a multiplex, better triple that.
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Hook
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Hell, 30,000 aint even that expensive as boats go. I can afford THAT but cant afford 28.00 launches very often, even if I could get over the lack of
value at that price.
Agree completely with Don....the only thing that will get their attention is a lack of business. A little bit of boycott now could go a long way
later.
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backninedan
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Phil, I agree with Don and Hook, you are way off base about $28 being anything close to reasonable. I will never launch there again until prices are
lowered. This is aimed at Loreto Bay buyers and people like you that think an extra $500 dollars a month is nothing.
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Sounds to me like this SINGLAR outfit is totally out of control. Who owns/runs
that outfit? Do they answer to anyone?
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