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BCSTech
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THAT was funny, right there! 
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Most Californians are Mexicans. |
You mean not Skeet's Califruties
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Crusoe
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Dennis.......What you just wrote is so nice to here. ......Why is there no expat community energy focused in this way?? Maybe..... Just maybe
.......David K could wrangle a deal with AARP. And there would never ever be any other worries in life as we know it.? And OXXO, What a great
expierience. Life is never all that perfect.......But dont you just love all the small details.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Correct, the creator of this thread (shari) has been a Baja Nomad for less than a year, so she may not have realized that the subject of a cheating
station in Santa Rosalia is not new to us (who have been here longer)... Also, there are new people here that appreciate the warning, I am sure.
As I said before, nobody makes you read posts here, nor takes away from others ability to post, why cry about a post that is intended to assist
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"Crying" - don't complain about being attacked unless you can avoid doing so.
Look, if the goal is to educate "Newbies", there are better ways to accomplish that than repeating the same subjects over and over and over and ... it
makes it harder to find information via search, due to the duplication.
Some examples:
1. Create a forum with that kind of information, and include "sticky" or read-only thread(s).
2. Create a knowledge base, organized by area.
3. Have a list of FAQ's.
4. Have a list of "critical info".
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Crusoe
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Hey Lencho.....If all you have to offer young Mexican boys is milk bones......maybe you should stay out of Baja.They, the young boys, probably dont
want to to see any more of us gringos anyhow. They probably never had the same oppurtunities as you! Your kind of energy and attitude is not what
hungry and confused people with no education need ,that have no other people or recources or goverment resources to fill in the small gaps to get a
square meal each day.Mostly,, they had a limited amount of natural resources until they sold alot of their ejido land and the Dept. of Fishereies
sold out the rest of what was swimming around in the beautiful sea. Just think about it, and enjoy the ride.
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DENNIS
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"Hungry and confused people with no education?"
Good goin', Crusoe. You have these folks all figured out, dontcha. I like the "confused" part most of all. I always thought it was a cultural
difference I was seeing but, no. It was just simple confusion.
Thanks for pointing that out.
[Edited on 3-1-2007 by DENNIS]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Correct, the creator of this thread (shari) has been a Baja Nomad for less than a year, so she may not have realized that the subject of a cheating
station in Santa Rosalia is not new to us (who have been here longer)... Also, there are new people here that appreciate the warning, I am sure.
As I said before, nobody makes you read posts here, nor takes away from others ability to post, why cry about a post that is intended to assist
travelers? |
"Crying" - don't complain about being attacked unless you can avoid doing so.
Look, if the goal is to educate "Newbies", there are better ways to accomplish that than repeating the same subjects over and over and over and ... it
makes it harder to find information via search, due to the duplication.
Some examples:
1. Create a forum with that kind of information, and include "sticky" or read-only thread(s).
2. Create a knowledge base, organized by area.
3. Have a list of FAQ's.
4. Have a list of "critical info". |
Good constructive criticism Roberto... How about emailing these ideas to Doug, or click on the Report button?
A repository of posts about certain areas in Baja... for quick and easy reference... Good idea...
I still think the newbies will continue to post their questions before taking the time to seek past posts about their subject of interest....
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The Sculpin
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People who think they know everything are especially frustrating to those of us who do!
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Dave
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Victim-blaming?
| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Something of which I'm convinced and that I've not seen discussed here is a subtle difference of attitude in Mexico: almost as if when you aren't
paying attention and get victimized in a minor way, YOU share the responsibility of your sloppiness. Material transactions in this culture are in
great part personal interactions, I believe to a much greater level than in the U.S., and if we won't or can't interact on that level,
well... we're just a scarcely animate object and may get treated like one.
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It may be the case but that's certainly no excuse and should never be defended.
Regardless of disparity in wealth, personal behavior or cultural difference, no one deserves to be treated unethically.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by marla
I also remember the store clerk who chased me down the street to give me the change I forgot from my $20 that I'm sure would have been more than she
made in the entire day. |
Why anyone would consider this unusual behavior is beyond me. To keep the change would be stealing.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by marla
I also remember the store clerk who chased me down the street to give me the change I forgot from my $20 that I'm sure would have been more than she
made in the entire day. |
Why anyone would consider this unusual behavior is beyond me. To keep the change would be stealing. |
Showing your good upbringing there partner
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Dave
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I would hope it would also extend toward the guilty
| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Since you're quoting me, does that mean you think I defend ripping off inocentes? Nah. 
--Larry |
Sorry. I didn't realize that you were simply presenting the argument for the purpose of discussion.
My bad.
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Dave
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My intent wasn't to shoot the messenger but
| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Maybe not (your bad); I do believe what I wrote in the initial message, but the intent was to present a different attitude which I've
observed in Mexico, not defend (or condemn) it.
--Larry |
Wouldn't lack of condemnation support "ripping off inocentes"?
Maybe I should take it back. 
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Does making that statement without an opinion, imply that I support killing noncombatant civilians? 
--Larry |
No, but you're comparing apples to oranges.
Add: "I neither support nor condemn" to your Iraqi war statement and I'll get back to you. 
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Phil S
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I don't understand why anyone would stop at that station what with all the publicity on this forum for the past ten
years????????????????????????????????
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Crusoe
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Your out fo fuel-simple!
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Pescador
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Yeah Phil, next time you come through from Loreto be sure to bring me a couple hundred gallons of fuel.
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Phil S
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We drive this route from Oregon 4 times a year. (round trip twice) We've only stopped at this station once maybe ten years ago. We plan our fuel
trips both directions to pass up Santa Rosalia on our quests.
Pescador. Would have been glad to when I was driving the Dodge Diesel pickup. Now driving Chrysler T&C. Still didn't have to gas up
there??????? In fact we haven't gassed at Mulege either. We fuel up at Loreto, and next fuel up is Viscaino or Guerro Negro or Villa Jesus Maria. I
sort of see it as "planning" your fuel needs. Sometimes we'll "fillup" when at half a tank.
Pescador. Were you referring to auto "fuel", or the Tequila type for the "human" fuel????? Couple hundred gallons would be a good start for a Nomads
party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pescador
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Good response, I am sure that if I started burning tequila in the "Moosea Boat" that I would no longer need to marinate those yellowtail.
It is easy for you guys passing through to miss our lovely "little station of corruption and vice" but for those of us who live here we are stuck.
But we will get our revenge when the new Qualli station opens, which hopefully happens before we get back next year.
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Canadiense
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Scammed the same way in SJD
I was scammed the same way in SJD, at the Pemex on the east end of the corridor.
Handed him two US twenties (included a tip), he truns around, then abck and show me a $20 and a $1. Thought i was confused and gave him another $20.
/took me a while to realize what happened.
Now I get out of the car, look at the pump, and count the money into his hands.
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