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How about Negrita cooking oil. Do they sell that in Baja? I couldn't believe it when I saw it in the Yucatan last winter. Also, in Baja, I've seen
some Coco Krispy sort of breakfast cereal with pictures of little black kids in black-face on the box. I couldn't believe it. That would not go over
well in the states.
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DENNIS
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How about La Cochinita restaurant chain.... With the stereotypical world war 2 Japanese face, round wire frame glasses, buck teeth and a big Tokyo
at sunrise squinty smile?
Probably wouldn't fare too well in Los Angeles.
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DENNIS
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They're all over Ensenada. Are they in other areas as well?
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Don Alley
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Big stink in the US about these stamps a while back:
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DENNIS
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Oh, yeah. Memín Pinguín. The little fella created quite a stir.
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sylens
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2 other examples
café negrita and our neighborhood dog, la negra (fondly called negrita).
it wasn't until the last ten years or so that you would see women serving in restaurants--all and only men. rationale, as it was in good ol' usa 40
years ago for paying men more for equal work, is that it is assumed men are supporting families; women are earning pocket money. but times they are
a changin'. growing recognition of domestic violence and demands for equal pay are signs of where mexico is heading...
"political correctness" only arises in a society as minorities and groups previously subjugated begin to get a voice and demand respect...it gets
awkward when folks start insisting they be know by a name they choose, but ultimately, equal rights and equal access for all are achieved only after
much awkwardness (at least) and violence (at worst).
jmho
lili
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comitan
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Dennis
We have them here in La Paz.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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DENNIS
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Ah so......... That face is getting around.
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fdt
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Negrito Sandia is a classic song from Cri Cri.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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bajalera
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And how about the subtle racism that prevails in TV commercials and print advertising, where you hardly ever see anyone with Indian features.
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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shari
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No No No...it's not racism or politically incorrect...its reality. It took some getting used to but I have learned to respect the latin way of
"calling a spade a spade"...you see, most people are named after saints and so tons of people have the same name so they don't mean much...only in
paperwork...but in everyday life...folks have nicknames...usually based on what they look (or looked like as a baby) gordo, flaco, chino,
pelon,negro...etc. Here it is not an insult to be called Hey baldy for example...it just is what it is so why be uptight or insulted. It is racism or
politically incorrect in OUR culture but not in baja. They really don't understand why we get so weirded out about these terms. But yes, it is hard
for women to get jobs when the ads are so blatently wanting single,cute, young women....but at least they tell the truth about what they want so there
are no ruses. truth hurts does not apply here when it comes to physical attributes....strange but true. I can now calmy and without shame call some
guy....Negro...ven aca....
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David K
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It used to be "sticks and stones can break our bones, but names will never hurt us" in the U.S., too... Then lawyers and politicians got involved as
they saw $$$ .
I will agree that it seems very insulting if those images were used in a negative manner...
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osoflojo
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Well said, Shari
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flyfishinPam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by osoflojo
Well said, Shari |
and Sylens
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Monia
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Very true Shari. My mom is from Ecuador and when we would go visit my uncles would call me negra, even though I have light skin but it is of an olive
tone and I have dark hair and eyes, different from the rest of my family. So to them I was negra, at times it doesn't mean a person of color but
rather an endearing term.
They would say: "Negra como mi suerte, suerte como mi negra!
May no animals be harmed in the making of this film.
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Oso
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grover
| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Negrito Sandia is a classic song from Cri Cri. |
Some friends gave me a Grandes Exitos tape of his; one of my
favorites:
"...¡Un negrito bailarín
de bastón y con bombín,
con clavel en el ojal,
pero que se porta mal!...
¡Hey amigo, lo compré
para ve' bailar a uste',
perezoso mueva los pies!
Dale cuerda y ya verás
como se acuerda y puede bailar ...
¡Morenito, vamo a ve'
si por fin se anima uste',
y no' baila algo de tap!..."
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I have that on an old LP. The song is about a kid talking to a wind-up toy. My favorite is "Rey de Chocolate" but next to that, the one about the
"Gringuito Cowboy Mouse".
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Oso
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This was Chente's reaction to the Memin flap:
http://www.elcerebro.com/archivo/negros.htm
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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woody with a view
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whatta bout the signs on the toll both (tj to ensenada) that loudly proclaim, "BAN BRAS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
[Edited on 5-8-2007 by woody in ob]
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Wingnut
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Shari is right on with her observations. Mexico is all about describing what one see's or is familiar with. No insults are intended, just a familarity
with a member of the gene pool.
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Marie-Rose
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I love that our neighbors blonde dog is called "gringo"
I told them I would pay to know what my nickname was....no way would they tell
[Edited on 2007-5-9 by Marie-Rose]
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
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