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[*] posted on 5-7-2007 at 06:30 PM


would marlinman wear a thong?

I don't like seeing nets used closed to shore or to cut off a bay or a mangrove channel. I hear in Mag bay that they use the four inch nets when the inspector is in town, and down to three inches the rest of the month.

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Those manta ray nets off shore have been very good to me for big bull dorados - a nice oval troll -




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[*] posted on 5-7-2007 at 06:45 PM


good going! it was the right move - you are now a member of Abbey's wooden shoe gang! :bounce:



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[*] posted on 5-7-2007 at 06:45 PM


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Lately it has been getting worse with him. One night he pulled in with five to ten green sea turtles, offloaded them to a waiting pickup that came down the beach without lights, crept out of there headed for the buyer in La Paz. A month ago, on one good night, he netted, killed and sold over a hundred baby hammerhead shark. Last week he came in with over 100 kilos of roosterfish (mostly babies). I saw him offload what surely had to be 40 kilos or more of a mixed bag made up mostly of chivato, Mexican goatfish and rayadillo, wavy-line grunt.


100 sharks? <100 kilos of roosterfish? in a panga? ........ i sure hope (Jorge?) Osprey is spinning tales!:lol:

if not, i've gotta Glock w/ no numbers.....maybe stick it up Oscars culo after removing his thong and see how he reacts?:D




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[*] posted on 5-7-2007 at 06:46 PM


I read and enjoy everything Osprey writes. I think Coco has a thong on his ceiling that would actually fit marlinman..................
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[*] posted on 5-7-2007 at 08:15 PM


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Hows this for an idea?
I have a story about a superhero named Marlinman. ...He's assisted by his trusty side kick... okay I need some help with the side kick. Dolpinboy? Turtleteen? Octokid? Squidsquirt?


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[*] posted on 5-7-2007 at 11:45 PM


Great story Osprey. Like the one about how Brad Pitt saved the Baja with Flyfishing! You write so well. I can imagine someone actually doing something like this. Your imagination is really great, or else you used a real happening to base this story on. Good one.

I know an Oregon Flyfisherman who ran into a Yakima Indian net strung from bank to bank on a local river allowing no escapement. The net was cut into small pieces at dusk and placed in a neat pile on the shore. Must have been very satisfying :spingrin: for the person who did this.

Thanks for the ongoing fiction, keep them coming! Hope no one really thinks you did this, wouldn't want some copy cat to actually do something like this after reading your work of fiction. Or if you based the story on an actual event, I hope all goes well for the guy who so creatively did this.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 07:43 AM


The story is fact except for two things:
1. That’s not the guy’s name.
2. I didn’t touch his nets.

In the story I told you all I know about the situation, all I’ve learned in the last 12 years in this little village – it’s not nearly enough. I’m torn in half by the thing. Day after day I ply the nooks and crannies of the extensive shoreline in my small boat using all the right lures at various speeds for different presentations hoping for a chance to get back to the house with a couple of nice sierra (the limit is 5) while on the same morning the guy has been seen with a tonelada, 2200 lbs of sierra in his boat.

I wouldn’t put my family at risk, in harms way, to sabotage a man’s fishing equipment. Certainly not as a visitor in a country whose laws are a complete mystery to me. Vigilantism is the kind of lawlessness that turns victims into villains. When I can’t stand it any longer I guess I’ll round up some of my Mexican fishing pals, try to convince them to help me research the alleged permits, institute a proper petition of legal estoppels, bring the whole matter out in the light, let the world see the injustice, put a proper end to the netting.

I wasn’t trying to trick anyone. I’m a teller of tales, a fiction writer and a compulsive liar. Thanks to all of you for your kind words, your encouragement – I knew (for lots of you out there) the story might evoke the honest passion and frustration made clear in your posts. You honor me with your validation and humble me with your praise.

P.S. Fishbuck

Maybe we can collaborate on the Marlin man theme:

Evil divers armed with airharpoons are protecting the contractors working under water on a new kind of fish-killing stun station.

Squidsquirt: “Holy regeneration Marlinman those divers look like trouble to me.”
Marlinman: “Just some new kids havin’ fun with their little guns – no preoccupada joven.”
Squidsquirt: “Just to be on the safe side I’ll put their lights out, you give em the bill.”
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 07:56 AM


Always love reading your stories. I would wish it was true, expect I would not want to see you in danger.

Keep on writing and sharing.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 10:10 AM


Bounce for Fishbuck (and others I owe)
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 10:48 AM


I took literary license too in regard to the Oregon Flyfisherman and the net he cut into small, very satisfying pieces. I too would never publically advocate for such random acts of retribution.

I am please to hear your clarification. I recall a nation stunned into terror when War of the Worlds was broadcast. Words are powerful indeed!

Keep em coming.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 01:11 PM


Osprey ---

I was impressed with your story, so much that I commented on it here. I didn't react to your writing style. I reacted to the hot-topic content of it. Dead turtles, gill nets, baby roosterfish and others. It is a display of concept sensitive fiction and the shame of it is, for you, that it isn't a display of concept sensitive fact. [ who above mentioned the Monkey-wrench Gang ]
As I said, I appreciate your writing abilities. I only think your method of "setting the hook" was out of place, being here. What I would liken it to is, going on a site for cancer sufferers and professing to have found a cure, returning later to say it was a writing drill.
This is not poetic license. It is having fun with a sad fact.

Again, I like your writing style, in spite of it's misdirection.

Are you published? Is there more? I would like to read more.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 01:23 PM


ah, another hooked Nomad.....:yes:

Very stirring yet frightening in more real terms.




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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 01:39 PM


Vigilantes and ficticious superheros aside. Is there any legitimate oganzation of concerned anglers for the protection and concervation of the Baja fisheries?
I remember reading a while back about the effort to prevent commercial long line ships from fishing in the Cortez. What ever happened with that?




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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 01:43 PM


Are they still there?
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 01:51 PM


I remember years ago when there were two kelp cutters working the waters around Ensenada. They were cutting too deeply and, in spite of complaints, continued.
One beautiful night, a ball of fire sat offshore, taking the egregious mower to the waterline.
It was beautiful.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 01:53 PM


Dennis, Fishbuck

Dennis, I've written about 200 short stories and essays some of which have been published; two books (one about the future of the Sea of Cortez, the other about the famous cave paintings of Baja) which will probably never be published -- I'm just not set up for self publication or agent chasing. You can all have em free if you'll trust me with your E addresses. They download quick. A few Nomads have read them and they're still talking to me.
Fishbuck, there are many conservation groups who have been working a long time to stop the raping of this little sea and all the others. It's an up-hill battle in Mexico because all the things in the sea are for-sale resources which Mexico often treats like mangos, chilis or cotton.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 01:59 PM


Osprey ----

I trust you with my life. Thanks.

I have to take off but, I'll send a PM when I get back in a while.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 02:52 PM


These people have what it takes - not just words:
And, ya know what? You could get involved too.

Sea Shepherd Flagship R/V Farley Mowat Longline Confiscations
• In March 2002, Sea Shepherd crew confiscated an illegally set Costa Rican 30 km (18.6 mile) line in the Pacific territorial waters of Guatemala with the permission of the Guatemalan government.
• In April of 2002, Sea Shepherd crew confiscated numerous lines from the Marine Sanctuary of Cocos Island in cooperation with Costa Rican Park rangers.
• In August 2002, Sea Shepherd crew confiscated 12 km (7.5 mile) of longline set in the waters of the Marine Sanctuary of the Galapagos National Park and turned it over to the Galapagos Park Rangers.
• In September 2002, Sea Shepherd crew confiscated a 60 km (37.3 mile) line of unknown origin set in the pelagic waters between Tahiti and New Zealand.
• During 2002, Sea Shepherd confiscated and destroyed over 100 kilometers (over 60 miles) of illegally set longline.
• In the process, four sea turtles, sixty-seven sharks, and over a hundred large fish were found alive and released back to the sea.
• Dead fish, birds, and turtles are put back into the sea. The fish is not utilized as food on the Farley Mowat because the Sea Shepherd ship has a policy of not serving fish as food onboard the vessel.
• In March 2003, the Farley Mowat confiscated longlines near the Cook Islands and south of Hawaii.
• During the months of May through August 2004, the crew of the Farley Mowat intervened and confiscated lines near the Galapagos, around Colombia ’s Malpelo Island and in the Galapagos Corridor between the Galapagos and Panama.
• In April of 2005, the Farley Mowat deployed 16 net ripper devices on the Tail of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland to discourage illegal bottom dragging.
• January 2006 - The Farley Mowat confiscated a Uraguayan tootfish longline inside the Australian Antarctic Terriotorial waters. A total of some four kilometers of line was confiscated.
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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 03:44 PM


Wilderone,

Thank you.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2007 at 03:50 PM


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Hows this for an idea?
I have a story about a superhero named Marlinman. ...He's assisted by his trusty side kick... okay I need some help with the side kick. Dolpinboy? Turtleteen? Octokid? Squidsquirt?


Remora. ;D


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