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DENNIS
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Wilderone ----
You are a freakin saint in my book. Im old enough to be ruled by cynicism but, your efforts ring true and unselfish. You care. You care about life
that can't defend itself. Life that needs our help. Life that doesn't need to be killed for fun.
Getting involved is what? Going to the Wildcoast site?
Hang in there, buddy.... this is a diverse site. Some will agree and some won't.
I agree with you, wholehartedly.
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Bruce R Leech
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Location: Ensenada formerly Mulege
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Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
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Osprey, your my hero. keep writing the good stuff. I think your words are more powerful and do more good than Green pieces radical actions. some how
I see an increase in acetone sales coming.
Bruce R Leech
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DENNIS
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Oh yeah..... The sales of acetone are always increasing here in Mexico. It's one of the necessities for the production of methamphetamin, speed.
And, we are living in the country which is number one in that catagory.
Hey Bruce-----Where have you been?
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Oso
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Location: on da border
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Amazing how many bite Osprey's hook. I always know from his excellent style where he is going with it. In this case, I don't think I'd really mind
if life imitated art.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Von
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Im so happy to here that some one has the balls to do that,my friend
Thanks for saving some of my friends in the ocean! that could have been me next time in the sea!
Keep on kickn some A..!
[Edited on 5-9-2007 by Von]
READY SET.....................
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BajaWarrior
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Location: Mission Bay, San Diego. Playa Hermosa, San Felipe.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I remember years ago when there were two kelp cutters working the waters around Ensenada. They were cutting too deeply and, in spite of complaints,
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One beautiful night, a ball of fire sat offshore, taking the egregious mower to the waterline.
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Yep, when I had my home at La Bocan de Santo Tomas, the kelp cutter came in so close on more than one occasion I thought it would hit the rocks in
front of my house. I have to say, it was pretty awesome watching it work, but sad at the same time. I must say though, it's not like they were taking
even close to half of it. But it would cause quite an impact after many collections.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Sharksbaja
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Wilderone and George, Pam, Judy and others
This is the type stuff that makes me really enjoy hanging out here. Your personal attachment and love for Baja exemplifies the people who
should be in Baja.
It DOES help to inform or otherwise draw attention to an important plight. How effective Greenpeace and/or others will beis yet to be seen. But when
I see how effective George was here I take pause.
Aside from staging protests on site (btw, is not an easy task) some groups attack the problem from other angles. .It helps fortify the protest at a
different level(s).
Sometimes it may behoove various entities, both poitical and investment to make concessions for political and consequently, money gains. Public
opinion is only viable if it can be represented at a level that can actually institute, defer or make changes at the forefront of the project. In this
case the estuary and illegal fishing.
This type of protest, which has no appearance of a protest, can yield fast and hopefully positive results.
My point is that although it may seen trivial and too late in some eyes. It is more likely than not that Greenpeace has other cards up their sleeves.
They may respond multi-prong with press releases mass emails and a host of other tools. They don't cave-in easily.
It sends a global and more importantly, a local message and a cry for help and support.
You may harbor suspicision and mistrust towards some big orgs and I share same misgivings about a few. Because this stuff is close to home for so
many of us I feel a distinct connection with the waters of Baja on a personal level.
Please do a little on your part for with the love for Baja you have. It was so impressive how the Nomads reacted and heled after the flood.. We are
a voice, we need to sound off.
So stay tuned, your help may be needed.
We need to help preserve important places like George and Wilderone, Gringorio and Pam speak about.
To you folks, a big tip of the hat. Thanks, Corky
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Capt. George
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quit using all the acetone, how am I gonna get my nail polish off?
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Osprey
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Rays eat clams and scallops. Rays have one main predator, sharks. Down here almost all fishermen with any kind of equipment are taking sharks of any
kind, any size (goodbye mullusks) -- turns out the Shark Norma 029 (for the litorals - shoreline environment) means/meant little for the shark
fishery, augured very poorly for the bycatch --- we are feeling it now as the dorado catch is way off for the last few years.
I think the clams I get at Soriana's come from Bakersfield
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DENNIS
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Seeing the foto of the shells takes me back to the 50's when, in a gully next to Hoag Hospital in Newport Beach, abalone shells were discarded
and piled in huge mounds. No Mother Of Pearl value at that time.
A million years from now, archeologists will come across this landfill and write books about the abalone stuffed indians that once lived on that spot
when actually, it was the whiskey stuffed ab divers who would split their time between the Cortez Banks and Woodys Wharf. That probably wont be in
the book.
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Osprey
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I too am heartened by Nomad’s grasp of the fishing disaster down here. If we are not quite galvanized we are at least together in the spirit of
“something must be done.” I propose an action plan:
I will volunteer to act as control on the plan. It is devilishly simple. All Nomads (except me – control) and all their willing friends will begin a
total catch and release program for all fish species.
I will continue to harvest as before and when I see positive increases in the fish count I will report/post on the board. Then we can vote to
continue the plan or modify it in some way. We’ll have to give the plan some time to work. Let’s say 5 years to start. Don’t bother to clutter up
the board with your “yea’s and right on’s” I know you’re all behind me.
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DENNIS
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Osprey ----
Yeah ..... Right on. Maybe you should expand your responsibilities to Quality Control in the seafood restaurants. Of course, meals should comped in
the interest of responsible consistancy. Bon Apetit
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Capt. George
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Jorge I stay away from those (the best there is) Bloody Mary's!
Does this mean I'll have to release Deborah also??
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Capt. George[
Does this mean I'll have to release Deborah also?? |
Don't fool yourself George, you're the one that got hooked 
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Capt. George
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ain't that right...
still like to crank ourselved believing otherwise, DUH
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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bajajudy
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Overheard today in San Lucas
After my chiropractor visits, I always walk the San Lucas Marina, because of the flat surface, the boats bobbing in their slips, and the tourist add
some degree of entertainment. Today as I was passing a boat, the crew was calling out to passersby...Want to go fishing? Most said a polite, No
Thank You. But the guy in front of me said....why go, all the fish are gone. Broke my heart to hear someone say this. 
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Don Alley
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http://www.seawatch.org/what_can_you_do/alt_join_seawatch_nl...
A possible alternative to destroying nets.
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fishbuck
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Okay, now we're getting somewhere!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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fishbuck
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Okay, now we're getting somewhere!
[Edited on 5-10-2007 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Iflyfish
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Thanks Don
Iflyfish
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