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bajalera
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Somebody probably knows . . .
what this building material is.
But it's going to take some work to fit the Paraisodescription--that the houses are being designed with traditional Mexican architecture detailing,
and will feature beautiful stucco and hand-made Mexican clay tile roofs.
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Bajabus
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Recycled toxic omlette bags?
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Al G
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A guess Maybe???
Fiberglass reinforced foam panels and will maybe have fiberglass stranded stucco on top??? 
Albert G
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fdt
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That would be the awful house 
[Edited on 5-28-2007 by fdt]
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Ken Bondy
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Not sure from the photo but it may be some type of Insulated Concrete Form (ICF). bajalera did you notice if there was concrete inside of the wall
space? Or if there was a space between the two outer surfaces of the wall?. This is a type of wall construction that is becoming very popular in US
residential construction, particularly in very hot and very cold areas. But I have never seen the color or the texture shown in your photo in any ICF
installation. I see the word "structural" on the wall surface, but I don't recognize the "W" or any of the other words.
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comitan
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In BCS its used a lot called Panel W, its stuck up then plastered both sides, then becomes an insulated wall.
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DENNIS
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I agree with Al G. Foam panels to be cement covered to give them strength. You can see the cables on the right side, keeping it from collapsing.
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DENNIS
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Comitan -----
Is that a wire mesh grid on the outside to hold the stucco?
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Ken Bondy
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Is it a solid panel or is there a space between two outer surfaces? If it is solid do you know what is the material? Is it like a styrofoam? I
saved lera's photo and zoomed in on the walls, it does look like a solid (foam) panel with a grid of welded wire fabric (mesh) on the outside to
reinforce the plaster. Not a bad idea, I wonder how the engineers handle seismic loading.
[Edited on 5-28-2007 by Ken Bondy]
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DENNIS
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I first saw this building method in Ensenada around twenty years ago. It's fast construction but dont know about cost.
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comitan
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Yes there is a wire mesh that holds the plaster and gives it strength, And normally it is not doubled with air space in between, but have one house
here built that way with the plumbing inside the walls this house is very well insulated.
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Ken Bondy
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DENNIS do you know what kind of floor system is used? I assume it is concrete, but if so, how do they make the connection to the foam walls?
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DENNIS
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I don't know, Ken. They did have concrete slabs but I didn't pay any attention to how they fastened the walls.
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Ken Bondy
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Thanks DENNIS. They probably make the connection by cutting intermittent blockouts (slotted holes) through the wall, threading slab reinforcement
through the holes. Interesting system, I would like to know more about it. ++Ken++
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DENNIS
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What I think I remember is a two sided, steel channel, like an H, that went between the foam panels to join them. It was all wired together.
Perhaps they used a variation of the channel to fasten the wall panels to the floor.
What I do remember, because I had to drill through one was that the wall plaster was thick. About 3/4 inch. Im surprised cracking wasn't
considered but the lite panels needed strength.
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AmoPescar
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GIANT GRAHAM CRACKERS!!!
Giant Graham Crackers are baked and assembled using the same method as Gingerbread houses. The white frosting roof helps to keep it cool in the
summer. very subject to bug problems though!!
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Triscuits
[Edited on 5-28-2007 by Sharksbaja]
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I sure hope the big bad wolf doesn't come
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As "Comitan" stated, they are reinforced foam building panels. They are used quite a lot in the United States for commercial tilt-up buildings. As an
architect in Northern California, I do not get to use them much because of our seismic zone (4). The wire mesh on the wall faces is actually a
vertical WWF (welded wire fabric) which does give the wall strength in tension and bending. Depending on the thickness of the plaster/stucco which is
applied to the wall faces, that will determine how much weight (ie: conc. ceiling or floor) the walls can handle in a vertical load. As others have
mentioned, the foam offers an insulated shell which is nice. But, drilling these walls to hang curtain rods, towel bars and the like is seriously
limited by how thick the plaster is on the wall. You can easily drill right through and end up in the foam core which is essentially useless for
anchorage. The final weight of the walls when finished can hold up to some hurricane force winds (depending on category) but is not nearly as wind
worthy as CMU. The cost of these prefabricated walls has skyrocketed in the last year or so because of their speed of construction, insulation factor
and ability to shape. I personally still prefer concrete block with a great A/C unit to cool. The WWF offers reinforcement but way below that of #4
or#5 rebar set inside the horizontal block joints and vertical cores of CMU. Let's not forget, the Baja peninsula has a direct relation to the tail
end of the San Andreas fault!
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Legos?
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