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oldlady
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Working around the house
Husband and I want to "putter" on our new house if and when the contractor ever finishes it. Neighbor has advised us that since FM-3's do not allow
us to work, legally there is virtually nothing we can do, need to hire a Mexican worker.
Same neighbor has advised that there are those in the area quick to make "denuncias" for any infraction.
So, anyone know if there is a website or document that defines what we are permitted to do?
Thanks,
old lady
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
Husband and I want to "putter" on our new house if and when the contractor ever finishes it. Neighbor has advised us that since FM-3's do not allow
us to work, legally there is virtually nothing we can do, need to hire a Mexican worker.
Same neighbor has advised that there are those in the area quick to make "denuncias" for any infraction.
So, anyone know if there is a website or document that defines what we are permitted to do?
Thanks,
old lady |
You can work on your own property. Legally, there is virtually nothing you can't do.
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Bob and Susan
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just don't open a business like dave
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oldlady
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Thanks, Dave.....I'll unpack the tools!
oldlady
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bajabound2005
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If you own property here, you WANT to get an FM3.
Oops, read that wrong. I though it said you DIDN't have an FM3!
[Edited on 7-22-2007 by bajabound2005]
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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oldlady
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I have FM-3 and land and house "almost" done. First two were easy.
old lady
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Marie-Rose
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Just curious...
...were these gringo neighbors or Mexican neighbors that gave this information?
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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oldlady
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Gringo neighbors.
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comitan
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And you have to live with them.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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longlegsinlapaz
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You CAN work on your own place (AND MINE!!) I'd be curious to know if the
"denuncias" have been for doing work in & of itself; or doing it without proper permits & approvals, ad nauseaum! It wouldn't surprise me if
PROFEPA has a stool pigeon on the unofficial payroll up in Lomas! They're apparently making a bundle in the area! I did a drive-by your place a couple weeks ago, looks like you'll be renting longer than planned! As will I!
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DENNIS
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That's right. longlegsinthebathroom and I, her friend, always agree on things like this.
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Dave
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Not necessarily
| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
And you have to live with them. |
Make denuncias. 
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bajalou
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I'm with larry - work on your own and only supervise the neighbors. A friend almost deported for this when La Migra made one of their periodic
sweeps.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Alan
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Way to go guys! Here some guy has a great scam going by convincing his wife that it is actually illegal for him to personally do all of her
honey-do's and you guys go and blow it for him. Are you sure he still wants you for a neighbor now?
[Edited on 7-24-2007 by Alan]
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Eli
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Things have changed I am sure, (or at least I sure hope so).
In the 1990's, I got busted; I was legal with an FM3, working papers for a few years when I was denounced by some of my competitors who were trying to
form a syndicate that I, my partner, and workers refused to join.
Oh lord, that must have maybe 15 years ago, geez what a mess, the last people you want to be in a mess with is a syndicate. Anyway, due to much
investigation on the part of immigration, we wound up having a few sit down conversations and I learned that they could read the lay of the law anyway
they so chose to do so. I remember at one point, the head Jefe told me, that if he wanted me to lick his boots, I best plan to get down on my knees or
get out of the country. Man, they were harsh and rude dudes to deal with back then, nothing like they are now. I hear they are real sweet pussy cats
these days.
I remember a discussion with one of the under Jefes, and I asked him what was I allowed to do in my own company, or for that matter even my own home;
He said only delegate, that was all, period. That as a foreigner I was here to provide opportunity for the nationals to work, and that was the only
valid reason I had for being in this country, move money. I was not allowed to use a typewriter, no washing windows, no sweeping the floor, nada. He
said I couldn't even bake cookies for my workers as a Friday afternoon treat if I wanted, and as that was my own home oven, well, I was flabbergasted,
down right distraught.
Of course, after a couple of weeks, they went away for good. I went back to my typewriter and washing my dishes and baking cookies for my guys, but
I will never forget the humiliation and fear that they struck into me. Although, I am happy to say that they never bothered me ever again. Of course,
I wouldn't step foot in their offices ever again either, I gave my accountant power of attorney to handle all dealings with them ever after that.
I expect that now that is why I am a citizen. I can sell tamales on the street if I want to, I can be poor, I can have an opinion, or do something
stupid and go to jail, but they can't throw me out. I don't have to report my whereabouts or what I am doing no more.
Now, Ol Lady, that is not meant as a scare story, but maybe an idea of where your neighbors are coming from in giving you their "advise". For sure, I
don't believe immigration would have time or cause to bother you for hanging pictures on your walls or planting a tree in your yard. But I do believe
that if they had a reason to, like you were some kind of undesirable, or angered the wrong people who were in a position of power, they would and
could find away to throw you out.
I remember a line by my dear ol Dad, "In Mexico everything is against the law, it is just a matter if they want to enforce it or not".
[Edited on 7-24-2007 by Eli]
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bajadave1
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Don Jimmy
Eli,
Your dad was a wise man.
Dave
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Eli
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Yes, he was Dave, yeas he was, bless his sweet soul.
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oldlady
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First, thank you all for your replies and advice. I have been lurking on this board for 2 years and have found you to be a wonderful bunch, many of
you have helped us without even knowing it!
longlegs, I think your conjecture about a pigeon is accurate, the frustration and disappointment in that section is growing and because of the "laws"
regarding slander and/or libel, and our vulnerability to deportation, people are loathe to verbalize too much.
Finally, Eli, while Debbie Fields is much prettier than I, I make a pretty terrific chocolate chip cookie, which I will no longer deliver to the
workers on our house (just to be well within a margin of safety....but YOU are welcome to stop in for one if La Casa Pesadilla is ever completed.
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comitan
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One more comment, this has been going on for years, A couple of years ago I finally went to immigration about this, they told me its ok to work on
your own house, that was good for me to know since I have been working on my house the last 13 years.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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CaboRon
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Old Lady, Good Luck With Your Casa ... CaboRon
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