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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 11:08 AM


Lack of money is the root of a lot of the evil in this world, not all, but a good bit of it:spingrin:
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 01:05 PM


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Should we worry about our overuse of anything taking away from people we might not even like?

Hard to argue with that one. On a gut level I think that attitude stinks, but I have nothing logically convincing to refute it with. :)

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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 06:58 PM
Money, Money, Money, More Money.


Not to Nitpick, but wasn't the original quote that the "Love" of money was the root of all evil ?

Even in that respect it is, of course, flawed. There is, and has been, a great deal of evil acts unrelated to money.
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 09:37 PM


retired teachers....... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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[Edited on 7-21-2007 by Hose A]
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[*] posted on 7-20-2007 at 10:40 PM


honda tom
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"the reality that the most of us have to deal with."

What reality is that? Contempt?

"Teachers.......xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"?

It sounds like the writing of someone who has not appreciated his/her own education and is now angry at those who provided it.

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[Edited on 7-21-2007 by Hose A]
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[*] posted on 7-21-2007 at 08:05 AM
Another Perception on Money


In the mid 90s I took a job that paid every week. Not as much as I had been making by about 25%. But it seemed I always had money. Not a care in the world. Four years later I took this job and it paid about 50% more, but was paid only once a month on the 15th. That was the hardest thing in the world for me. It seemed like I was rich for a few days then broke the rest of the month. I was so glad they switched to twice a month pay.
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[*] posted on 7-21-2007 at 08:13 AM


Jeez honda tom!:O The jdtrotters are nice enough to share their Baja experience and you insult them?:?:
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[*] posted on 7-21-2007 at 10:23 AM


the gringo tax simply sucks you all know it

nine dollar marguarita...asked a local gringo if he thought that absurd no, theyīre really nice people??? so am I, talk about making absurd excuses to allow the Mexicans to screw us...Are there different prices in the states for mexicans vs americans.....I think not...

I donīt care about what land Mexico once held, I donīt care about people that were once slaves, Wealthy Mexicans screw their own people much more then we visting gringos. I for one am not below asking a vendor "does this include your gringo tax"....brought back mexicanos to buy the same item.......40% less...

I rest my case




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[*] posted on 7-21-2007 at 10:49 AM
The Gringo Tax


An OLD and Venerated Custom.

I remember being at a restaurant in Tijuana around 1956 with my Father and a friend who lived in Ensenada part-time. They brought us menus in English. The friend asked for one in Spanish and he showed us that the same dishes on the two menus were priced differently. We were to find that trait very common wherever we went.
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[*] posted on 7-21-2007 at 11:01 AM
Insult


I guess having limited internet access has its advantages---by the time I read we had been insulted as retired teachers, the posts had been edited. Thank you HoseA :yes::yes:

But just to be clear, teaching is only one of the many things we have done in the past, for whatever that is worth.

I am surprised, however, that a simple snapshot in time would bring forth personal attacks. I share my thoughts and experiences, as do others, as just a part of being here in Baja---a way to reflect upon our experience.

I always enjoy reading the experiences and thoughts from others and hope that personal attacks will not happen---disagreement is one thing, insults are another.

And, yes while better off not knowing, I am curious about the attack.

Diane




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[*] posted on 7-21-2007 at 07:47 PM


I have seen inflation take off in every place I have ever visited that attracted tourists. Prices rise and the locals then are hard put to be able to live in the place that they have lived for years. It is not a new story nor a particularly Mexican one, rather a typical human story.

Then the old place is torn down in the name of progress and a homogonized version of the image of the place that was is built on top of the ruble of the original place. Did I miss something?

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[*] posted on 7-23-2007 at 03:26 PM


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Take you opinions of retired U. S. teachers else where.
This is a Baja California forum.

[Edited on 7-23-2007 by Hose A]
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[*] posted on 7-23-2007 at 04:04 PM


Honda Tom.........

Your view on U.S. teachers should go Off Topic before it is sent there.

It's Baja...........Remember? That's the subject matter here.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2007 at 04:04 PM


To be ignorant is better than being stupid because ignorance can sometimes be fixed through education. Teaching was only a small part of our working lives.

Sorry you really did not understand what was written, and for such a snapshot in time to raise such emotions is unfortunate and sad, and perhaps more a reflection of unhappy choices in your life. Of course in the worker's eyes we are wealthy---

oh well, we wish you the best of luck in your future.

Diane and John

[Edited on 7-23-2007 by jdtrotter]

[Edited on 7-23-2007 by Hose A]




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[*] posted on 7-23-2007 at 04:10 PM


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I may have taken it a bit far, but meant no personal attack. My view on US teachers should be left for another forum.


Thankfully, it won't be this one.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2007 at 08:07 PM


never been blocked before.. im not sure if anyone typing about me is actually reading this. my point... gringos trying to get any point across to a mexican as it pertains to them not being wealthy, is a joke! You, me, all of us gringos are wealthy! dont insult the mexican workers.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2007 at 07:29 AM


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Wow. What's that all about? It's OK for you to say it but, not MrBill?
It's sometimes amazing how far an original sentiment can stray away from a thread.

[Edited on 7-24-2007 by Hose A]
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[*] posted on 7-24-2007 at 01:25 PM


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Originally posted by Baja Bernie I often wonder
why this happens to such lovely threads.:?::?::?:


Seems as though a few later posters were hell bent on confirming my humble observation.

I will say that I have been very poor, finacially, and then not rich but very comfortable. I really can't see much difference except that I eat better.......same kind of friends both rich and poor...........they are those who care about others and are not afraid to show it. Now, to me, that is really being rich.

Another observation......No! we are not all rich and........a lot of Mexicans realize exactly how poor some gringos truly are.........they are just to polite to mention it.

John and Diane...........this is sadly, one of the drawbacks of sharing true feelings and thoughts with those who have never acquired the intestional fortitude to expose themselves to others in a positive way.

We should all be glad that it comes up so seldom here on the Nomad board...........thanks in no small part to Jose and Doug.




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[*] posted on 7-24-2007 at 02:27 PM
Just stumbled across this one


after re-reading this thread................

"To have done anything just for money is to have been truly idle." Henry Thoreau

Seemed to fit!




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[*] posted on 7-24-2007 at 03:19 PM


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We should all be glad that it comes up so seldom here on the Nomad board...........thanks in no small part to Jose and Doug.


I suppose......
But I still like: _ _ _ _ _ better than xxxxxx :lol::lol:

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