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[*] posted on 7-26-2007 at 09:04 AM


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"I want you to understand...You will never be able to do anything about this....NEVER. Go home, stop your whining. You have been had. Sorry...hope you are not a owner"
I made this statement, because I do not believe there is anyone willing to organize a strike/movement to stop sales...your only hope.


"organize a strike/movement" that's from the last century.

The Internet.

Have you taken note of how many people have viewed these Loreto Bay threads (granted, many multiple times).

When the Loreto Bay June 2007 thread was hot bajanomad.com with a link to the thread was coming up on the first google page after a "Loreto Bay" query.

If I wanted to, I could build a website that hundreds of thousands would read. I'm using this website as my notepad and more importantly, gauging reaction.

But, I get paid to do such things and I have time commitments.




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[*] posted on 7-26-2007 at 09:16 AM


Oldhippie...well taken and I know I use old terminology.
if the home owners and locals had an once of intelligence they would hire you to do your thing.




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[*] posted on 7-26-2007 at 09:24 AM


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Oldhippie...well taken and I know I use old terminology.
if the home owners and locals had an once of intelligence they would hire you to do your thing.


I'm open to offers. I've never had an employment gap in 30 years. I like to think it's because I do good work, and most importantly, I'm cheap. Businessmen love that combo, and I know in the long run I've made out.




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puzzled.gif posted on 7-26-2007 at 10:47 AM
Possible?


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I'm open to offers. I've never had an employment gap in 30 years. I like to think it's because I do good work, and most importantly, I'm cheap. Businessmen love that combo, and I know in the long run I've made out.


How about building a portable nuclear generator, 4-5kw? There's plenty of waste material lying around. Obviously, only responsible people could own one.

I'd have to steal mine. :rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 7-27-2007 at 07:14 PM


wow this thread got dropped like a hot rock once old hippie mentioned gettings paid :O:O:O:O:O



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[*] posted on 7-28-2007 at 09:42 AM


So you guys are saying it is a not a good deal to buy at loreto bay?
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[*] posted on 7-28-2007 at 09:46 AM


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So you guys are saying it is a not a good deal to buy at loreto bay?

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:Sorry:saint:




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[*] posted on 7-28-2007 at 02:39 PM


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So you guys are saying it is a not a good deal to buy at loreto bay?


Depends upon what you want. As an investment, I think it's risky. The wealth effect caused by the hyper-inflation of housing in the US seems to be waning. And no Mexican will ever buy into the development. Why buy a house that the people that live in the country don't want and can't afford? Much wiser to buy a nice house that a Mexican professional worker would be proud of. A house ain't worth nothing if you can't sell it.

Buying it to live in because Loreto is a nice place is more reasonable, but they're expensive places with (I bet but don't know) CC&Rs thicker than War and Peace.

Plus there's the annoying little problem of the absence of water.

For the money, you can put together a list of 10 better places in a few minutes on Google.

Visit Cabo, see Loreto in 10 years.




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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 09:37 AM


"So you guys are saying it is a not a good deal to buy at loreto bay?"
Cost of unit excessive (just a condo), plus cost of HOA, taxes, utilities, beach club, auto club, shuttles, air fare for annual visits; no garage, gotta walk everywhere, high density and way too close together-no privacy; if full time, what will you do all day-better like to play golf and fish and hot summers and work in the orchard; the Loreto Bay Co. consistently exaggerates, does not tell the entire truth about anything; makes false promiss; makes outrageous statements with no qualifying data in support. In sum, why would you choose that when there are so many other places offering sun and beach and drinking water without the destruction of the sensitive coastal environment? Thousands of homes in Mexico for sale or rent. And why would you want to live in Mexico in an Anglicized community with so many strictures? I recently read that with your HOA dues, you get pastries delivered free each morning, through a small exterior window passage. Now maybe that's happening right now in Flounders Village. But is this deal really part of the HOA governing documents? Or another "vision"? At "build out" - some 5,000+ residences are going to have fresh pastries delivered -- 10,000 fresh pastries all delivered at once in the morning over five miles?? Is this part of their vision for the economic development of the region? A large bakery with delivery service? Maybe with HOA dues, you can have someone come and wipe your ____ too.
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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 09:45 AM


boy....i sure am glad there are SO many qualified references here to advise me where to spend my money.....if it weren't for such resources i'll bet i never would have made the $$ i have today!

i have to jump in here to read this drivel every once in a while, it cracks me up.:tumble::P




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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 09:54 AM


Invest in Loreto Bay, Mike. Then you can give us all the straight poop. Be nice to have such an unbiased reporter in the midst of a lovely gringo community.
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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 11:03 AM


Hey Captain Mike, cpg asked for opinions! People responded. What's wrong with that?

"SO many qualified references here to advise me"

Nobody was offering you advice. However if you want my advice, I suggest you buy 10 houses at Loreto Bay.

If you have a different opinion, express it.

Just what was said that you consider drivel?




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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 11:15 AM


Nothing wrong with Loreto Bay, if you want to live in a housing project. :bounce:
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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 11:22 AM


"i sure am glad there are SO many qualified references here to advise me where to spend my money"
So clearly portrays how a fool and his money are soon parted. There are more qualified references here than you'll ever find within Loreto Bay drivel. Not to mention the due diligence you could do yourself.
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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 11:43 AM


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Nothing wrong with Loreto Bay, if you want to live in a housing project. :bounce:


That's unfair, housing projects usually end up being slums. A better description is "tract homes".

Without cars
Without water
Without stores of any consequence
Without hospitals
Without a police force (that may be a good thing)
Without adequate banking services
Without newspaper, magazine, or book stores
Without theaters




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wink.gif posted on 7-30-2007 at 11:43 AM
ha! just not my cup of tea Dan


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Invest in Loreto Bay, Mike. Then you can give us all the straight poop. Be nice to have such an unbiased reporter in the midst of a lovely gringo community.


but i don't begrudge others who like it or want it. like i have said, i have a good acquaintance who bought there and they love it. to each their own - but it lives or dies as a part of free enterprize. i won't lose tears or sleep over its success or lack of it ultimately. it was a featured story on a recent issue of Who Gives a Crap magazine.

i don't think it would have gotten as far as it has if the Mexican gov't didn't want or support it. i think most shams are identified as such way before they reach the level LB has.

5000 homes?? some here think that's going to occur quickly. i don't think so. the actual absorption is affected by many variables - sure ecology is one. either they will solve the density issues or not and it reaches its maximum draw on resources.

the protestations of non citizens here against it i find mainly amusing and for the most part impotent in efficacy.

what i don't see here is a lot of documented discourse with Grogan's group. Just a lot of facts tossing and eco ranting.

why not challenge the trust openly even on other forums and provide their defense here?
i recall when Grogan was on the baja radio show. he acquitted himself fairly well. Was that PT Barnumism.....or do they actually have their act together? i'd go with the latter until someone drops a bomb with real meat.




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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 11:49 AM


No water isn't "real meat"?

"the protestations of non citizens here against it i find mainly amusing and for the most part impotent in efficacy."

"impotent in efficacy" pretty fancy English, I like it.

When the Loreto Bay June 2007 Version thread was hot, links to it were coming up on the first page of Google search results for "Loreto Bay". I bet a fair amount of potential buyers followed those links. Maybe some were dissuaded from buying. Therefore what is said here could be potent in efficacy.

And since when do you need to be a citizen to have an opinion. Hell, the United States recently invaded a sovereign country because of the opinions in Washington DC.


[Edited on 7-30-2007 by oldhippie]

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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 11:54 AM


oldhippie! You said it.:bounce: When you crowd too many people in a small area bad things happen.:D
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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 12:19 PM


and another thing:

"i don't think it would have gotten as far as it has if the Mexican gov't didn't want or support it."

Have you seen the disaster that is now Rosarito Beach? Of course the Mexican government wants it and supports it. Because "it" happens to be American dollars. The current baja tourist developments prove it doesn't go much beyond that.

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[*] posted on 7-30-2007 at 12:21 PM


Your good acquaintenance bought and loves it? Were they from Phoenix? I guess Loreto Bay would be better than hell.

"for the most part impotent in efficacy."
How would YOU possibly know whether the 30,000+ messages regarding Loreto Bay on this forum have had any effect on future sales?
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