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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 07:28 AM
USPS to help Mexico


August 14, 2007

MEXICO CITY -(Dow Jones)- The Mexican government plans to upgrade the country's
much-criticized postal service and signed an agreement Tuesday with the U.S. Postal
Service to help in the process.

Communications and Transport Minister Luis Tellez said the Mexican Postal Service, or
Sepomex, has been neglected for years, while the USPS is "an example of modernity,
efficiency and quality."

Under the agreement signed Tuesday, Sepomex staff will visit U.S. facilities to analyze
procedures and equipment, and the two will also cooperate to improve cross-border
services.

The agreement also includes the development of a tracking and location system for the
implementation in 2009 of a payment-by-performance agreement for packages.

The USPS will also support Mexico in setting up a postal inspection group, including
selection, recruitment and training of inspectors.

U.S. chief postal inspector Alexander Lazaroff said at the signing event that the agreement
will address security concerns in both countries with enhanced security procedures.

Tellez told reporters the government plans to make significant investments in the
modernization and automation of the postal service.

At present, "a lot of letters get lost that our countrymen send to their families from the
U.S., sometimes with money, sometimes with some object of value," he said.

At the same time, Sepomex has only two corporate customers - phone company Telefonos
de Mexico (TMX) and Citigroup Inc.'s (C) local unit, Banamex. The rest use package
delivery services because the postal system didn't give them the service they needed,
Tellez said.

"I can assure you that within two or three years, let's say closer to three years, we'll have a
postal service we can be proud of," he added.

As part of its modernization strategy, Sepomex also signed an agreement Tuesday with
Mexico's Federal Electoral Institute, which will provide the postal service with its database
of addresses of registered voters.

Officials said the information, which will be provided twice a year, will help the postal
service improve, given frequent problems locating addresses in both urban and rural
areas.

The Communications and Transport Ministry said Sepomex is prohibited from marketing
the information in any form.

In 2003, there was an outcry in Mexico when U.S. data-gathering concern Choicepoint Inc.
(CPS) sold U.S. law enforcement agencies confidential information from Mexico's voter
registry that it had obtained from Mexican companies.

-By Anthony Harrup, Dow Jones Newswires; (5255) 5080 3450; anthony.harrup@
dowjones.com




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 07:38 AM


"I can assure you that within two or three years, let's say closer to three years, we'll have a
postal service we can be proud of," he added.:lol:

don't hold your breath on this one:light:




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 08:34 AM


USPS is a joke in most places.

I watched a Cabo postman (on a scooter) empty his mailbags, which contained mostly Telmex bills, in the desert behind the Costco. Couldn't get my Camera in time to get a pic, but went up and picked up some of the mail and took it to the PO in Cabo. They were not interested & told me to just put them in the trash.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 09:07 AM


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USPS is a joke in most places.

I watched a Cabo postman (on a scooter) empty his mailbags, which contained mostly Telmex bills, in the desert behind the Costco. Couldn't get my Camera in time to get a pic, but went up and picked up some of the mail and took it to the PO in Cabo. They were not interested & told me to just put them in the trash.


Is it any better to pick up your mail at the post office?

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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 09:27 AM
A Joke ?


"The USPS is a joke in most places" ?

Funny, I've never heard the joke. Having used the U.S. Mail for over fifty years, the number of problems I've encountered have to be a small fraction of one percent.

We can only hope that the real joke, the Mexican Postal Service, one day approaches the efficiency of its U.S. counterpart. The Mexican businessmen I know have P.O. Boxes on the U.S. side of the border for receiving important mail.

I've witnessed a recent good example of that efficiency when I signed up for Netflix. I would receive a DVD one day, send it back that day or the next and it would be received and the next one shipped within a day.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 09:49 AM


I agree with Bill here. The post office has always worked for me, whether it was residential or a PO Box. Vacation holds have worked like a charm, etc.

I thought I had an issue with USPS over continuously late (or never) delivery of WON when I used to subscribe. I had visions of a fishing employee delaying it. Turns out it was WON all along, after talking to others who experienced the same thing in different cities.

No complaints with their special delivery services, either. Now, you can go on line and tell them you have a package for pickup, pay for it on line, set it on your porch and your local carrier picks it up. What more could anyone ask for now..........

I have never understood the complaints with the USPS.

I can imagine, though, that you might get a bad carrier and the union would just support them no matter what. That could change one's opinion fast about the USPS.

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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 09:58 AM


I have to agree as to the generally great service at the USPS.

And Priority Mail was a godsend.

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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 10:57 AM


I have never understood the criticism of the U.S. Postal Service. Another thing I have never understood is how they can be so efficient and courteous for the minuscule cost of postage. :yes:

However, I do understand the criticism of the Mexican Postal System. We have all been the losers there. Upgrading the system is long overdue.




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 01:06 PM


Any help the USPS can give Mexican Postal Service will be a GRAND improvement!



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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 03:08 PM


The last time I was in a Mexican post office, a few years back, you had to put your own glue on the stamp.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 03:31 PM


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did you EVER think those letters were not deliverable and were NOT to be "returned to sender"????

so YOU picked up trash and brought it back...:lol::lol:

what do you think the USPS does with all the trash it get daily???
the DUMPSTER!!!!:yes:




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 03:53 PM


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USPS is a joke in most places.


Huh??? Where did that come from and what is the basis. I couldn't disagree more.
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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 04:02 PM


The USPS is one heck of an operation. Get's the job done, rain or shine.:bounce::bounce:
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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 04:23 PM


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Reeljob

did you EVER think those letters were not deliverable and were NOT to be "returned to sender"????

so YOU picked up trash and brought it back...:lol::lol:

what do you think the USPS does with all the trash it get daily???
the DUMPSTER!!!!:yes:


Actually, I think they put it all in my mailbox.

Seriously, I must not have the same USPS as the rest of you. Fortunately, with electronic bill pay, email and Fedex, I almost never have to use them any more. After my experiances, I'll never trust them with anything of any importance.

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We have been in some sort of mail order business for over 20 years and we always used the USPS and still do for our orders from our website which ship out of Colorado. UPS ticked us off over some damaged merchandise and we swore to never use them...and we didnt. Have never had any problems with USPS.

As for the mail here. We have had an apartado for 6 years and seem to get most of our mail, if we pick up the mail regularly. I have gotten cd's, clothes, sample books, all kinda of stuff here. The people who work in the Correo here in San Jose are very helpful and usually know when I walk in if I have a package and tell me. The main problem here seems to be mail within Mexico. We cannot get catalogues or packages from D. F. They have never made it.....maybe 20 tries on various occasions.




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 05:15 PM


It sounds like great news!! However does that mean my address will change from "domicilio conocido" to ???
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It sounds like great news!! However does that mean my address will change from "domicilio conocido" to ???

I just read that in Todos Santos there is a government group going house to house checking property ownership and assigning house numbers...and street names where needed. Did not connect it here until now.




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 07:11 PM


pureto rico has areas like "domicilio and conocido"

they are called "urbanizations"...

postal software has alot of trouble automating these names

also spanish names like "rio del sol" and "la fortuna"

future software will be written to include these but the don't work for now




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 09:11 PM
Mexican Postal Follies


"The last time I was in a Mexican Post Office" brought back a few memories of times in San Felipe.

The strangest was once in June when I was forced to change the P.O. box I had received Five months earlier because the FORMER renter had come in and said he wanted back the Box Number that he'd let lapse in January.

On another occasion, I arrived at the Post Office during working hours and the door was locked. Next to the building, The postmaster was working under the hood of his pickup truck. I asked when he would be open and he said he had to get his truck running. Maybe Manana.

Speaking of stamps, I mailed a letter to the U.S. from the San Felipe post office and the clerk had to scrounge for an assortment of stamps to make the postage. I ended up with a half-dozen stamps on the letter. To top that, he couldn't make change for a 50 peso note.

I've never had anything like that happen in the U.S.
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[*] posted on 8-17-2007 at 06:00 AM


then you've never been to a small town "contract station"in the states:lol:



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