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CaboRon
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Al G,
Am I mistaken or do you not have a beach house in Las Tunis ? 
I am a " turtle hugger " from california and I don't live on the beach .
Furthermore, I believe " turtle huggers " have something to contribute to the Nomads .... do we all have to share the same ideals in
order to be a Baja Nomad ? 
Are people of the earth not allowed to be Baja Nomads ? 
You should welcome us, and celebrate the diviserty that is humankind.
Sign me ,
just a tree (oops), a turtle hugger,
- CaboRon   
I know as you travel through Todos Santos you witness the greed and waste of many gringos that have set up their little clicks there. And I know
they want TS to be their private enclave.
[Edited on 8-16-2007 by CaboRon]
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Al G
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Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Al G,
Am I mistaken or do you not have a beach house in Las Tunis ? 
I am a " turtle hugger " from california and I don't live on the beach .
Furthermore, I believe " turtle huggers " have something to contribute to the Nomads .... do we all have to share the same ideals in
order to be a Baja Nomad ? 
Are people of the earth not allowed to be Baja Nomads ? 
You should welcome us, and celebrate the diviserty that is humankind.
Sign me ,
just a tree (oops), a turtle hugger,
- CaboRon   
I know as you travel through Todos Santos you witness the greed and waste of many gringos that have set up their little clicks there. And I know
they want TS to be their private enclave.
[Edited on 8-16-2007 by CaboRon] |
You are right on all points except the first...but will be trying hard this year to buy "near" the beach. Keep getting cold feet...I am not rich and
it will deplete my resourses on a major scale...to bad I did not act 5 years ago.
Albert G
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Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Al G,
Am I mistaken or do you not have a beach house in Las Tunis ? 
I am a " turtle hugger " from california and I don't live on the beach .
Furthermore, I believe " turtle huggers " have something to contribute to the Nomads .... do we all have to share the same ideals in
order to be a Baja Nomad ? 
Are people of the earth not allowed to be Baja Nomads ? 
You should welcome us, and celebrate the diviserty that is humankind.
Sign me ,
just a tree (oops), a turtle hugger,
- CaboRon   
I know as you travel through Todos Santos you witness the greed and waste of many gringos that have set up their little clicks there. And I know
they want TS to be their private enclave.
[Edited on 8-16-2007 by CaboRon] |
You are right on all points except the first...but will be trying hard this year to buy "near" the beach. Keep getting cold feet...I am not rich and
it will deplete my resourses on a major scale...to bad I did not act 5 years ago. |
Opps.. I should have read your post more careful...
diviserty is what Nomads are about...listening is important to learning...I have learned a lot here and always will...hope the street goes both ways.
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Al G
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Interesting read...seems far more effective effort then Todos Santos effort to keep quads off the beach...
http://currents.ucsc.edu/05-06/01-23/sea_turtles.asp
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Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
I will not dwell on Beach front owners, as they hold the lowest position of beach life...with their Beach grab attempts...
I am all for turtle hugging...we all knowing the season and areas affected...I will not ride then and there...that is little to ask. I will offer that
time to help with the protection....
Al G,
If you arn't a beach front owner, can you honestly say you wouldn't want to be one? And if not why not? I know that since the first time I camped on
the beach in baja I have dreamed of having a place of my own on the beach. Are there some A-wipes that own on the beach of course there are, hell I
live in So Cal don't need to tell me that. But all arn't!
Your position on the turtles I couldn't agree with you more on. Why don't you tell all of us the time of the nesting season so those that care will
stay off the beach.
When I get my house built, looking a little further out in view of recent economic issues, I would love to offer you an adult beverage.
Saludos,
Ken
I apologize for the Ital font.
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Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
I will not dwell on Beach front owners, as they hold the lowest position of beach life...with their Beach grab attempts...
I am all for turtle hugging...we all knowing the season and areas affected...I will not ride then and there...that is little to ask. I will offer that
time to help with the protection....
Al G,
If you arn't a beach front owner, can you honestly say you wouldn't want to be one? And if not why not? I know that since the first time I camped on
the beach in baja I have dreamed of having a place of my own on the beach. Are there some A-wipes that own on the beach of course there are, hell I
live in So Cal don't need to tell me that. But all arn't!
Your position on the turtles I couldn't agree with you more on. Why don't you tell all of us the time of the nesting season so those that care will
stay off the beach.
When I get my house built, looking a little further out in view of recent economic issues, I would love to offer you an adult beverage.
Saludos,
Ken |
First Ken, I know not all...infact I believe most are not as bad, as the picture I paint. I am trying to open the eyes of the many, to the efforts of
the few...and the deception they work under.
It is all common sense...just think WHY???
I would love to own beach front...sadly I may be to late to the dinner table...
I do not know the exact dates...it goes on now and about 2 month long...but don't quote me. I will guess July through August...
Look forward to Pacifico time with you |
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Al G,
Thanks for the link... it seems that thorugh (sic: where is the spell checker anyway) tracking and research are neccesary preparation
for effective action in any conservation effort .
- CaboRon
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Well, this is interesting!
Strange the same folks(turtle huggers) who protest ATVs use them for protecting tutles.
"Learn about these amazing creatures that date back to the time of the dinosaurs, but are now endangered. Around midnight, we will patrol the beach on
4-wheel ATV's and on foot. If we are lucky enough to find a nesting turtle, we will wait for her to lay her eggs, then transport and bury the eggs in
our fenced-in nursery, where they will remain safe from predators."
Source:http://www.bajabeyond.com/turtles.html
The Olive Ridley is the most abundant of all of the species of sea turtle. They use the beaches in Baja California Sur and the state of Sinaloa for
reproduction, and frequent the bays and estuaries of the region for feeding. Olive Ridley nesting beaches are regularly destroyed by poachers and
ATV’s driving down nesting beaches.
Source: Propenninsula.org
Sea Turtles Come Out Ahead
Sea turtles and the volunteers who look for their nests on Flagler County beaches every morning won a victory Monday when a judge ruled that a
beach-driving ban enacted to protect the turtles shouldn't prohibit volunteers with the same goal from using ATVs. Flagler County Judge Sharon B.
Atack acquitted a Turtle Patrol volunteer of violating the county's beach-driving ban, ruling that other state and federal laws aimed at protecting
the reptiles have given their blessing to the use of all-terrain vehicles by specially trained turtle volunteers. Her ruling clears 53-year-old
volunteer Denis Cody of a traffic ticket, but members of the turtle group are waiting for a written copy of the judge's ruling before they'll drive on
the disputed 11 miles of beach. Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel, 6 June 2006.
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CaboRon
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Sharksbaja,
What can I say .... Sounds rediculous to me too ....
- CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Strange the same folks(turtle huggers) who protest ATVs use them for protecting tutles.
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I don't think it is strange at all. In the right hands ATV's are a valuable tool for many forms of work. Sadly, the same ATV's the the egg huggers
use to protect the species are probably used by the same egg heads children to do donuts on the same beach.
Al somewhere between your 5th post on this thread and your 7th your meds must have kicked in because there is actually an air of compromise in your
posts.
If you use Mozilla as your search engine is comes with a spell checker that underlines all misspelled words. It even works when typing posts on
Nomad.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Al G
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Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Strange the same folks(turtle huggers) who protest ATVs use them for protecting tutles.
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I don't think it is strange at all. In the right hands ATV's are a valuable tool for many forms of work. Sadly, the same ATV's the the egg huggers
use to protect the species are probably used by the same egg heads children to do donuts on the same beach.
Al somewhere between your 5th post on this thread and your 7th your meds must have kicked in because there is actually an air of compromise in your
posts.
If you use Mozilla as your search engine is comes with a spell checker that underlines all misspelled words. It even works when typing posts on
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Life is a compromise and so is my spellchecker...not sure if it is from China or India...mozilla is a compromise too...I would rather buy a good one
if I could find one...
Albert G
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I was using the law of Jerry. You can't have it both ways! Can you?   
I think it's pretty obvious we can control ourselves. Who were those guys anyway?
Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Strange the same folks(turtle huggers) who protest ATVs use them for protecting turtles.
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I don't think it is strange at all. In the right hands ATV's are a valuable tool for many forms of work. Sadly, the same ATV's the the egg huggers
use to protect the species are probably used by the same egg heads children to do donuts on the same beach.
Al somewhere between your 5th post on this thread and your 7th your meds must have kicked in because there is actually an air of compromise in your
posts.
If you use Mozilla as your search engine is comes with a spell checker that underlines all misspelled words. It even works when typing posts on
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Al G
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Interesting...visited 15 sites and not one is the same
Dates...if you read between the lines you would concludes turtle season never ends....
Here is Todos Santos dates:
ASUPMATOMA A.C. IS FORMING A COMMUNITY-BASED GROUP IN TODOS SANTOS All ages and interests are invited to work with them during the olive ridley
(golfina) and leatherback (laud) turtle seasons, September-March. The group will assist biologists in nocturnal patrols, in the egg
nursery and in educational presentation in schools and local festivals. ASUPMATOMA A.C. is the region’s oldest and most successful turtle conservation
group and has been working in the area for eleven years. We hope to increase local awareness about turtle conservation issues and practices. Todos
Santos is still known as the largest supplier of illegally captured adult turtles and turtle eggs. Together we can make a difference!
I was there Jan-May and never seen any activity...I was looking and asking. As I read each conservation groups take...It could be up to 6 months
long....41 days to hatch...depending on weather.
Albert G
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Algae, alias Al G - Man you are hard on home owners with waterfront properties. I cooled a bit after you spoke of your wishes. I also started as a
camper and then leased. And when I decided to buy I could afford it, Not now. ------ Here we have saved nests from the locals and I don't think any
one that knows of a nest would share that info on line. We put up fencing around the sites and a few volunteers keep a close eye on the sites. If the
site is too remote we'll clean up the turtle trails and nest areas. And it is usually the ATVs that find the sites.
Now, if anyone, really wants a high horse to ride to keep them off the streets I made a little slide show of a very destructive way of life that
has absolutely no benefits for the locals or the area they rape. http://homepage.mac.com/russinbaja/iMovieTheater14.html
It is crude attempt at a video so please do trash me too badly.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Strange the same folks(turtle huggers) who protest ATVs use them for protecting tutles. |
Makes you wonder how many thousands they kill to save a few...I would think they wouldn't drive on the area...would not bet on it though.
Albert G
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Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Algae, alias Al G - Man you are hard on home owners with waterfront properties. I cooled a bit after you spoke of your wishes. I also started as a
camper and then leased. And when I decided to buy I could afford it, Not now. ------ Here we have saved nests from the locals and I don't think any
one that knows of a nest would share that info on line. We put up fencing around the sites and a few volunteers keep a close eye on the sites. If the
site is too remote we'll clean up the turtle trails and nest areas. And it is usually the ATVs that find the sites.
Now, if anyone, really wants a high horse to ride to keep them off the streets I made a little slide show of a very destructive way of life that
has absolutely no benefits for the locals or the area they rape. http://homepage.mac.com/russinbaja/iMovieTheater14.html
It is crude attempt at a video so please do trash me too badly. |
Thanks Russ...I thought it was well done. Problema...I have found Quicktime incompatible on PC. Don't know which one is the problem, but I won't stray
from PC...20 min. to load quicktime and 20 min. to restore...it was still worth it, but only once. there are 100+ pc's to 1 mac...maybe you would
consider publishing with MP??? Just a thought...  
Edit: Regards..BajaAlgea
[Edited on 8-16-2007 by Al G]
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Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Algae, alias Al G - Man you are hard on home owners with waterfront properties. I cooled a bit after you spoke of your wishes. I also started as a
camper and then leased. And when I decided to buy I could afford it, Not now. ------ Here we have saved nests from the locals and I don't think any
one that knows of a nest would share that info on line. We put up fencing around the sites and a few volunteers keep a close eye on the sites. If the
site is too remote we'll clean up the turtle trails and nest areas. And it is usually the ATVs that find the sites.
Now, if anyone, really wants a high horse to ride to keep them off the streets I made a little slide show of a very destructive way of life that
has absolutely no benefits for the locals or the area they rape. http://homepage.mac.com/russinbaja/iMovieTheater14.html
It is crude attempt at a video so please do trash me too badly. |
Thanks Russ...I thought it was well done. Problema...I have found Quicktime incompatible on PC. Don't know which one is the problem, but I won't stray
from PC...20 min. to load quicktime and 20 min. to restore...it was still worth it, but only once. there are 100+ pc's to 1 mac...maybe you would
consider publishing with MP??? Just a thought...  
Edit: Regards..BajaAlgea
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Yes,
I found the video and especially the soundtrack to be quite moving.
However, I agree with Al, get rid of quick time. I took almost four min. to load your video. And I generally achieve download speeds of close
to six megabite per second, cable is the best.
Take care,
and keep making good videos,
CaboRon
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Thanks for the input. This Mac will flip into a PC so I'll see if I can figure it out. Now can your PC do dat? Probably don't want to huh? I think
everyone is having a problem getting it and I think it may be a problem with dot mac service more than Quick Time. But glad to have the feed back from
PC users and Quick Time.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
Thanks for the input. This Mac will flip into a PC so I'll see if I can figure it out. Now can your PC do dat? Probably don't want to huh? I think
everyone is having a problem getting it and I think it may be a problem with dot mac service more than Quick Time. But glad to have the feed back from
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Russ,
Don't mean to be rude ... but, I get the Mac rap from my brother in law all the time .... it is to a point where I cannot discuss anything about
computers without the discussion becomming an ode to MacIntosh   
And no, my PC cannot do backflips .... but it does run Vista, which is a platform I love.
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Had no problems - I have a PC and am now on cable and it streamed the whole thing - no download delay.
[Edited on 8-17-2007 by bajalou]
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