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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 07:32 PM


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Had no problems - I have a PC and am now on cable and it streamed the whole thing - no download delay.

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My post was poorly written...the events were not download speed concerns. It was the time to download...install...load and view one movie, then washing it out of my system by restoring to a earlier date. Mac products will not uninstall completly...the code if not totally remove it will mess with IE...The code could be in IE too. All I know is within a short time problems start developing...until I restore to an earlier date. I don't think Steve likes Bill.:lol: I think he is tired of being the ugly step child.:lol::P:lol:




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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 08:27 PM


Well, I try to avoid using IE at almost all costs. I've had Quicktime for a long time and view a lot of stuff regularly with it with no resulting problems. Just lucky I guess.



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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 10:07 PM


A little late chiming in here...but the irony is just too good. The Mexican on the East Cape who taught me something about turtles was driving a quad on the beach and monitoring nests. He simply drove close to the water because the turtles generally nest above the highest tide line. I was stoked to help him release some hatchlings, but bummed about having to camp in the stinky arroyo between fenced-off gringo land grabs. Thanks for the low ground! I hope the ocean does rise three feet, then we'll all be able to get to the beach again!

Sorry for the late night negative diatribe: Sad that the same people who went to Baja to escape the ailments of overcrowded CA bring the same problems that they meant to escape. A lot of shore-nesting birds used to nest on the beaches of So Cal--even the few beaches that are rarely visited by people. The birds are mostly gone and it's not because people drive quads up and down the beaches!
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[*] posted on 8-16-2007 at 11:39 PM


seems simple to me stop second guessing the laws of the land and obey them



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[*] posted on 8-17-2007 at 06:38 AM


Skamper....Good post thank you. Thr primary reason most of the shorebirds do not nest anymore along alot of the beaches in So. Cal. is because the sea is to poluted and there feed is gone along with their fresh water supply. Just to many folks tramping on their terrritory. It is a shame!! ++C++
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[*] posted on 8-17-2007 at 08:12 AM


Russ,

No need to apologize for the slide show. Nice work on a depressing subject.

Maybe I should be rethinking bringing down a center consul fishing boat to Chivato in a few years, and replace it with a sail boat! :mad::mad::(:mad::mad:


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[*] posted on 8-18-2007 at 12:45 PM
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Let me see if I understand this.............It's apparently against the law to drive a motorized vehicle on the beach in Mexico.

So the real question is ....why do we willfully and with knowledge of the law, break that law.....????

Is it because "everybody else does it", or maybe there is no enforcement of the law, or maybe because it's a foreign country and as an American I can do as I please, or........???

Would you do the same thing at Imperial Beach, or Huntington beach?????????, if no, why not????????

Just wondering and wandering.........
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[*] posted on 8-18-2007 at 01:42 PM


We break the law becuase we can!
We don't do this in IB because we would get caught.
Seems simple enough to me!




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[*] posted on 8-18-2007 at 02:40 PM


Personally, I would like to know the wherebouts of nesting turtles and birds so I can avoid them. The conundrum here tho is the poaching factor. That is the real problem to turtles once on-shore. Also the huge numbers of turtles caught and/or killed by longliners makes them responsible for dwindling numbers.
I understand why many "off-roaders" won't chine in. Let's just say they are confused and prefer anonimity.

The practice of driving on Bajas beaches in not a gringo invention. I've seen perhaps hundreds of locals plying the beach. Many are there for their livelyhood. They are experts on the sand. They have made the beach a road in many hard-to-reach destinations. Shall they be denied tambien?
Thanks Russ for the info and opinion. How do you feel about those semi-permanent ol' timers down there on shell beach. I think traveling along a beach track would leave less a footprint than some motorhome camped on the beach for months at a time. ;D




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[*] posted on 8-18-2007 at 03:20 PM


It's all about priorities.:) Decisions.:) Enforce the law or not?:?: It's the same old story north of the border. :lol: Some laws are easy to enforce, some aren't.:no:
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