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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
We have Baja Nomad to keep us happy until it is safe enough to return or to maintain a boycott of Baja until they get their act together... which it
seems they are working on. |
DK
Are you boycotting Baja? |
Here is what I posted on tripledigitken's thread:
Our trip to the El Rosario Festival, Asuncion, & Mulege last July was our last trip to Baja... We did take time out for the Baja 1000 in November,
but with the recent mafia activity and what happened to the surfers and later the 1000 race team member family... we happily did a tour of Arizona
instead.
I love Baja so very much, but the senseless murders Antonio's two brothers-in-law in Nov. '06 had quite an impact on our thinking... and when more
police were murdered and now tourists attacked, it is time to give Mexico a loud message... and they respond the quickest when we stop bringing money
down...
I am sure that the draw of Baja on me will cause me to cross the border soon enough, but it would be nice to have some law and order established, even
if by martial law...
I do hope that things are good so that we may enjoy the Baja-Rosario Cultural Festival next July. Until then, I will probably cross at Mexicali and
just stick with beach vacations on Shell Island or Gonzaga Bay as I had done for so many years before.
If Baja stays a mess, than we will be enjoying Hawaii our next vacation! ALOHA!!
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bajajudy
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Aloha to you
Viva Baja
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Von
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New problem? that problem is older than me and I was born in 1972!
READY SET.....................
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The military is all over Rosarito and patrolling with their machine guns out, loaded and waving. ....More interesting is that Mexican officials feel
the visibility of the military in town will help tourists realx and fell safer. They don't know Americans well I guess. |
Woooooooooooosh,
Hmmmm, that sounds like US foreign policy in a lot of situations....
Don't believe everything you think....
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Von
New problem? that problem is older than me and I was born in 1972! |
Older than me to and i"m from 58 
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I do hope that things are good so that we may enjoy the Baja-Rosario Cultural Festival next July. |
Ok then, less tamales for me to prepare for La Candelaria on Feb 02
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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comitan
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And here's more of the story.
http://www.mexicotoday.blogspot.com/
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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pappy
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playing devil's advocate for a moment-all that new blood in town might provide for a good recruiting season for the bad guys...
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Terry28
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We just returned this evening from a few days at our house just south of Rosarito. No problems at all. Both Rosarito and Puerto Nuevo/primo tapia
are ghost towns in regards to tourists and gringos in general. The locals we talked with said they are starving business wise...off over 50% some a
lot more. They blame publicity over crime,weather, the passport issue and too many rumors, bad ju-ju , etc. Saw a few pickup loads of federal cops,
all armed, none 'waving" their weapons etc. Seemed pretty professional. Took about an hour at the border at 1pm today, all lanes open. Rumors of
folks asking for their deposits back from the Trump project, seems the sell out on opening day was to a lot of speculators who only made deposits in
hopes of re-selling once things "Took Off" seems they haven't. Bummer for The Donald!!
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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Hook
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They blame the publicity over the crime? And the need for a passport in this day and age?
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marla
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DECEMBER 28, 2007
Baja City Police To Give Up Guns
And Undergo Screening As State
And Federal Agents Assume Patrols
ROSARITO BEACH, BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO---Over a period of several weeks police in Baja’s five cities will turn over their weapons and undergo a
screening process, Rosarito Beach officials said today.
The actions will be taken in different scales in Tijuana, Mexicali, Ensenada, Rosarito Beach and Tecate, said Rosarito Beach Mayor Hugo Torres.
The process began at noon today when the 150 officers of the Rosarito Beach Police Department began turning over their weapons to military personnel,
both for testing and to determine of they were legally issued by the military, said Torres.
All officers also will take a four-hour polygraph test and screening in Tecate to determine if they have engaged in any improper activities, Torres
said.
That effort will be supervised by Baja’s State Preventive Police, headed by Daniel de la Rosa.
While this is being done, an equal number of state and federal police will provide law enforcement for Rosarito, under the direction of the city’s new
Secretary of Public Safety, Jorge Eduardo Montero, a 41-year-old retired Army captain.
Such efforts have been undertaken periodically by the military, including in Tijuana about a year ago. The military is responsible for issuing all
guns to police, but recent concerns with security and crime also prompted the action now, Torres said.
“The governor knows that security is the main issue,” Torres said.
In the meantime, Rosarito has launched a number of other actions to make the city more secure and improve the police department.
As well as bringing in Montero, the new Rosarito administration will raise police salaries 15 percent Jan. 1, offer officers about a $250 monthly
performance bonus and add 80 academy-trained officers over the next several months, about 24 as tourist police.
Rosarito also will seek more automatic weapons for city police.
“Crime is not rampant in Rosarito and we have many fine officers, but we realize that both city security and the quality of the police need to be
improved,” Torres said. “We believe the state effort in combination with our actions will significantly help achieve those goals.”
If a man walks in the woods for love of them half of each day, he is in danger of being regarded as a loafer. But if he spends his days as a
speculator, shearing off those woods and making the earth bald before her time, he is deemed an industrious and enterprising citizen. Henry David
Thoreau
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Bug
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Has any one hear any thing going on in Mexicali...
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The military is all over Rosarito and patrolling with their machine guns out, loaded and waving. ....More interesting is that Mexican officials feel
the visibility of the military in town will help tourists realx and fell safer. They don't know Americans well I guess. |
Woooooooooooosh,
Hmmmm, that sounds like US foreign policy in a lot of situations.... |
Exactly where in the world in the USA encouraging american tourism in areas where gun-toting militias roam the streets to provide security besides
Mexico? Oh yeah, the US state department says don't go to Mexico.
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motoged
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The military is all over Rosarito and patrolling with their machine guns out, loaded and waving. ....More interesting is that Mexican officials feel
the visibility of the military in town will help tourists realx and fell safer. They don't know Americans well I guess. |
Woooooooooooosh,
Hmmmm, that sounds like US foreign policy in a lot of situations.... |
Exactly where in the world in the USA encouraging american tourism in areas where gun-toting militias roam the streets to provide security besides
Mexico? Oh yeah, the US state department says don't go to Mexico. |
Woooosh,
"gun-toting militias "... Does "Blackwater" ring a bell?
"the visibility of the military in town will help tourists realx and fell safer" .... Uhh, G. Dubbya suggested that such a presence would be
welcomed by locals, never mind tourists.... not in Mexico , but Iraq.....How's that working out?
Your initial statement said nothing about promoting tourism, but referred to the notion that tourists needed to feel comfortable.
My point is that there is more to Mexico and its problems than simply catering to tourism....and , if American tourists don't like an armed presence
roaming the streets, they might consider how other nations might feel about the US foreign policy that also sets up such conditions in other
countries.
I don't want to get into some anti-terrorism justification thread here, but am commenting on the impact of attempts to "create safety and stability".
Do you feel safer in airports these days with the increased armed presence and other security measures? Some folks do, some don't.
Some folks on this forum have suggested vigilantism as a solution to the recent thefts and assaults....is that a better idea than letting the Mexican
authorities do their best to address the problems?
There is the gun-loving response to problems and there are the alternatives....neither which necessarily present themselves as the preferred or most
effective solution.
Some folks are uncomfortable traveling in parts of the world where an armed presence is more visible....some accept it as "cultural difference".
No easy answers here....
Ged
Don't believe everything you think....
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Woooosh
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point taken
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marla
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30 Rosarito cops got fired after ballistics tests? Tell me more!
If a man walks in the woods for love of them half of each day, he is in danger of being regarded as a loafer. But if he spends his days as a
speculator, shearing off those woods and making the earth bald before her time, he is deemed an industrious and enterprising citizen. Henry David
Thoreau
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