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Hook
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Ya know, there is actually a growing cadre of RVers that take pride in being very self-sufficient in terms of needing full hookups and/or generators.
With the reduced costs of solar panels, inverters, low-drawing TVs, etc., many just love the quiet of dry camping as it is called.
So what if the rigs are large and comfortable. Some RVers can actually be good neighbors. Yes, I do wish they were more common, though........
I've gone from a 28 footer down to a simple cabover camper where you carry your outside living quarters with you and set it up around you. That has
transpired over 10 years. In all that time, I bet I havent run a generator more than 20-30 hours, total. Most often reason; making toast followed by a
very infrequent cooling of the rig before bedtime in sweltering heat. Now, I am inverting for toast and using 12v fans for nighttime.
Besides, it appears there is more than just improved road conditions conspiring to raise the visibility of BA to RVers. It's a never-ending
infommercial here on Nomads.
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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Besides, it appears there is more than just improved road conditions conspiring to raise the visibility of BA to RVers. It's a never-ending
infommercial here on Nomads. |
good point...
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Besides, it appears there is more than just improved road conditions conspiring to raise the visibility of BA to RVers. It's a never-ending
infommercial here on Nomads. |
You noticed that too, did you? 
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Sharksbaja
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Besides, it appears there is more than just improved road conditions conspiring to raise the visibility of BA to RVers. It's a never-ending
infommercial here on Nomads.
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Yep!
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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805gregg
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When I read the don't pave the road, I couldn't help but think of my trip out to Asuncion in Aug. I remember the Bimbo Bread truck following me. You
don't have to be in Acuncion, you chose to go there on vacation. How about all those people that have to drive the roads good, bad, rain or shine just
to bring you your bread, I think they deserve a break and a good road so they can get home to their family's sooner. This reminds me of the the
typical person who finds a place they like and doesn't want anyone else to enjoy the same place. You don't have to worry about me, no surf and too
cold.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
When I read the don't pave the road, I couldn't help but think of my trip out to Asuncion in Aug. I remember the Bimbo Bread truck following me. You
don't have to be in Acuncion, you chose to go there on vacation. How about all those people that have to drive the roads good, bad, rain or shine just
to bring you your bread, I think they deserve a break and a good road so they can get home to their family's sooner. This reminds me of the the
typical person who finds a place they like and doesn't want anyone else to enjoy the same place. You don't have to worry about me, no surf and too
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Try reading more than just the subject title. Since we live there part of the time now we are really looking forward to having the road paved, and
the broken pavement fixed-----it is not a vacation for us, it is our second home. Guess we need to keep the writing real simple.
Paved roads bring good and bad to a community.
We look forward to traveling back and forth to the closest ATM---Vizcaino on nice pavement.
A good paved road might bring caravans---don't care much for caravans.
Really don't care who shows up---and yes, it is often cold, windy, and the surf is unpredictable. We have actually encouraged people to visit, and
have also encouraged some to buy----
Diane and John
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bajalera
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No point in griping about obvious improvements, but the street in front of our house in La Paz used to have a bumpy lumpy dirt surface, plus a pile
of identifiable debris at one interestion that served as a tope. Definitely not a speedway.
Since it got paved and one-wayed, cars whizz past lickety-spllt, much too fast for a street without sidewalks that a lot of unattentive kids traverse
on their way to school or the neighborhood tienda
Progress, I guess, is sometimes a trade-off.
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
very true, not all mexicans want to change their simple lifestyle...but I bet you a billion US dollars that every local person in our village would
vote to pave the road. You have no idea how much of their income goes to car and tire repairs and the number of lives lost as a result from accidents
caused by not being able to afford to get the repairs they need....or the number of people who do not get medical or dental attention because they
don't want to travel that road in their unsafe vehicles...to them, the road is not about worrying about RV's coming or not...it's about better
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Still don't think you carefully read the post----and yes, a paved road would be easier on their cars, but I would guess that more accidents are caused
by the style of driving that road way too fast --- see that all the time---have almost been hit by a few, and that is not likely to change paved or
not.
Diane and John |
Diane and John,
I have read and re-read your original post several times and I don't understand what you are trying to tell Shari about reading your post carefully.
It seems to me that you are against paving the road (3x's "don't pave the road"), RV's larger than a tiny trailer and wasteful Canadians. Shari only
addresses the road and points out that most of the locals want the road paved and feel that it will improve their quality of life and disagrees with
your plea not to pave the road. What am I missing?
Steve |
In the post we say, don't pave the road, but also talk about how much we look forward to the paving of the road for other reasons ---the same
ambiguios feeling that others have. Yes the road makes like easier, but does not always bring ONLY positive changes---not just for us, but for the
community.
Sorry the caravan people in Loreto were Canadians---you appear to be offended by that comment. We have witnessed that same wasteful behavior with
other caravans in Mexico that were totally people from the US.
Yes, we had a tiny trailer, loved our travels in it, but discovered that that style was not ok for us----please, that is not a statement against
others who love their trailers and mohos---it just was not for us.
Still dread the day the caravans hit Bahia Asuncion----but they will be good for some businesses.
Hope that clarifys it a little.
Diane and John |
Diane and John,
I'm not saying your plea to not pave the road is right or wrong. I was only trying to find out what you meant by reading the message carefully. I
still think I was clear on my first reading as was Shari.
My understanding: You think at times you would like to see the road paved and you agree that most of the locals would like to see the road paved but,
the bottom line is that you do not want it paved. You indicated that sentiment three times. Carefully reading has not changed my initial
interpretation of your post.
Not sure how you read into my reply that I was offended by your remark about Canadians. All I did was paraphrase what you said about them carelessly
letting water run on the ground and wasting resources.
Your comment about the little trailer and the monsters could be construed that you just don't like large motorhomes and trailers and I did read it as
your being opposed to large RV's.
All in all, I think you may be in the minority of folks living in that area in regards to paving the road but, I may very well be in agreement with
you if we lived there too.
Steve
I think the world is run by C- students.
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DianaT
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Steve,
We want the road paved----everything else was really directed towards keeping caravans away.
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Roberto
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Diane and John,
Forgive me, but why do you keep explaining your post when your meaning was so obvious to anyone who bothered to read it and graduated high school?
Just let it go, your subtleties are obviously wasted on this subject. As someone recently said on another thread on this board, stop the pig
wrestling.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Diane and John,
Forgive me, but why do you keep explaining your post when your meaning was so obvious to anyone who bothered to read it and graduated high school?
Just let it go, your subtleties are obviously wasted on this subject. As someone recently said on another thread on this board, stop the pig
wrestling.
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Very good advice! Done, done, done. Back to packing so we can return ------out of the pit we go!
Thanks Roberto---needed that kick. 
Diane
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BMG
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Confused again.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Diane and John,
Forgive me, but why do you keep explaining your post when your meaning was so obvious to anyone who bothered to read it and graduated high school?
Just let it go, your subtleties are obviously wasted on this subject. As someone recently said on another thread on this board, stop the pig
wrestling.
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I think I have been insulted but I'm not sure.
1. Am I so uneducated that I keep missing the obvious?
2. Did I really not bother to read the post?
3. Who is the pig in this wrestling contest?
4. Am I correct in assuming this is directed at me?
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
4. Am I correct in assuming this is directed at me? |
Yes, but you are not alone. **************************************
[Edited on 1-21-2008 by BajaNomad]
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Bajaboy
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I thought Diver was putting in an RV park at his place on the point?
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honda tom
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glad you got there before everybody else.......... Eh?
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bajaguy
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They paved paradise and put in a parking lot
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rhintransit
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I live in a small once upon a time fishing village off the grid south of Loreto. the primary power lines pass within a half a mile of the dirt access
road. for years and years, the word has been...THIS year electricity. so far, no electricity, due primarily to the local Mexicans being unable to
show clear title to allow the easements. do i have mixed feelings about whether or not it gets here? you betcha. do the Mexican residents look
forward to power? uniformly yes. my feelings/sentiments are irrelevant. I will go with the flow.
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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Packoderm
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All this kind of reminds me of a certain song:
God made the mountains
God made the sky
God made the people
God knows why
He fixed up the planet
As best as He could
Then in come the people
And gum it up good
The first thing you know
They civilized the foothills
And every weary put hills
The mountains and valley below
They come along and take 'em
And civilize and make 'em
A place where no civilized
Person would go
The first thing you know
The first thing you know
They civilize what's pretty
By puttin' up a city
Where nothin' that's
Pretty can grow
They muddy up the winter
And civilize it, into a place
Too uncivilized
Even for snow
The first thing you know
They civilize left
They civilize right
Till nothing is left
Till nothing is right
They civilize freedom
Till no one is free
No one except
By coincidence, me
The first thing you know
The boozer's in prison
And the criminally isn't
And only the rascals have gone
When I see a parson
I gotta put my arson in
A wagon that follows the tail of a crow
The first thing you know
I pick up a growl
The first thing you know
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
When I read the don't pave the road, I couldn't help but think of my trip out to Asuncion in Aug. I remember the Bimbo Bread truck following me. You
don't have to be in Acuncion, you chose to go there on vacation. How about all those people that have to drive the roads good, bad, rain or shine just
to bring you your bread, I think they deserve a break and a good road so they can get home to their family's sooner. This reminds me of the the
typical person who finds a place they like and doesn't want anyone else to enjoy the same place. You don't have to worry about me, no surf and too
cold. |
Try reading more than just the subject title. Since we live there part of the time now we are really looking forward to having the road paved, and
the broken pavement fixed-----it is not a vacation for us, it is our second home. Guess we need to keep the writing real simple.
Paved roads bring good and bad to a community.
We look forward to traveling back and forth to the closest ATM---Vizcaino on nice pavement.
A good paved road might bring caravans---don't care much for caravans.
Really don't care who shows up---and yes, it is often cold, windy, and the surf is unpredictable. We have actually encouraged people to visit, and
have also encouraged some to buy----
Diane and John |
If you don't have to work you're on vacation, whether you stay in a house or camp in in a tent. You might as well pack. The road is comming, more
people are comming along with everything that goes with that.
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shari
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Location: bahia asuncion, baja sur
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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OK guys, those of you who do not want to hear about Asuncion...por favor don't open the threads...but I know lots of Nomads who want to know what's
new here...what the fishing is like, updates etc...I do not post here to drum up more business...we're quite busy thanks...and I agree we dont have to
worry about caravans here for some time to come...not enough resources or weather they like. Now, some of my very favorite Nomad amigos we have had
the honour of meeting have come here in varying sizes of RV's...I don't give a crap if they don't rent a house or go fishing...their friendships have
become solid, lifelong ones that I am glad to have made...they contributed to the village economy in a positive way. So although I will hate to see
RV's parked anywhere in my viewscape( ie: at Divers RV park)...I have grown to love some RV'ers.....especially the canadian or far north yankee ones!
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