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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 01:19 PM


Yawn. this is the Baja NEWS fourm
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 01:57 PM


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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 01:57 PM


Yes Kimberlee- A "newbie".

You may be bored with my Offer or maybe wise enough to do an Investigation on your on.

My offer was not meant to be a "Classified Ad" since it would be Non-Profit.
It was meant to :Help" GNUKID" with the Collection of Facts. So that others also may be willing and Able to try to Learn things that they cannot do themselves

I would Hope that you could have Understood

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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 02:30 PM


Thank you Skeet.

I, like you, believe in the good of La Paz. I believe we all want to make La Paz more safe and more gentle. But it just isn't that easy...

I assume you are referring to the specific incident I witnessed last week with kidnapping and extortion. Why don't you u2u me and we can meet at your leisure anytime-today would be great-it would be nice to meet you, and perhaps it can be more clear to you. Heck you probably know me already from around town. I'll pass on the details and all contacts to you via u2u and you can take it up. Though don't step on anyones toes, the investigation is underway. A phone call or visit won't hurt.

But please be careful and don't suggest that I am somehow a victim or involved other than as a witness and advocate who is likely already too scared to testify, again. In this case i rescued friends from a typical scam. I don't need to spend more time making corrupt cops with guns and sandanista masks more mad than they are for me busting up their gigs.

Having spent the majority of my life here too, I can't imagine anyone who thinks that these are lies, as a group we (in la paz) are surprised by reactions of denial but I understand it is upsetting and therefore many people have different reactions.

Many scams have occurred especially recently, they say its related to the election, my concern is the safety of family, friends and neighbors and really I don't believe anyone will pursue prosecuting the cops who rob people.

We are heavily involved in many community activities and charities at this time and we have had ample time to discuss these issues among many people including many leaders, none of whom have chosen denial but instead apathy or something along those lines would be more accurate.

I expect to live here for a long time too, so if the majority of Nomads don't believe or expect things to change that's fine. I have better things to do than to battle corruption 24/7.

I am more interested in adventure and ecology.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 02:49 PM


Not sure this is related but I solved another crime the last few days which I am also proud to report.

I went to an event party with about 100-200 people. There I imagined how certainly some drunk would side swipe every car at the party. I went outside and sure enough my car had been hit. I stayed calm. I took pics of the tracks, tire tread and paint marks. Then I began driving up and down the streets, slowly down every one looking for a car that matched the tires and paint. Low and behold after 20 minutes I found it! I went to the door and knocked, and out came a gringo who I know! He said, "oh gee I am so sorry, I was going to come and find you later, it was late I just left, I know the car is your baby, I hope its nothing!" I replied, "don't worry about it we'll get it fixed it won't be expensive," but inside boy was I mad and shocked. It takes all kinds. But I caught em, again. yay.

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p.s. Skeet I got a lot of stories and they are all true. I am an honest and happy person and a member in good standing in my community.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 03:45 PM


I have u2ued everything to you, contacts, names and locations and there is an official police report which I have a copy of. They don't often give out copies of reports but this was a gift from the police prosecutor to pursue this case. Please report back here that you did or didn't receive the data and make the calls right now to the people and numbers i gave you. Your effort will help, if you are polite and respectful. I also expect an apology from you.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 03:55 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by gibson
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No drugs were involved. The police in fact took tests of the victims which are in evidence of the case showing no drugs, a positive result would otherwise have been used to their detriment but in this case it is evidence to the benefit of the victims.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 04:09 PM


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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto


While you are looking around you might check into the Case of "Chopy" for basic Inormation go to the early Threads of this Board.

Keep up the Good Work.
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I think he's insinuating that you could be a "dead man walking" if you keep pursuing this.:cool:
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 04:18 PM


Skeet and GnuKid, Why don't you hash this out U2U?:bounce:
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 04:24 PM


I agree... I am not pursuing this.

I am a quiet kid who wants nothing to do with trouble.

Its quite a bit different for those of you who are sitting in the lap of luxury up in the US or Canada--in your nice office or in the living room watching tv. You feel brave and confident and you see no way for these things to be the way we live, but this is how we live in mexico. At the same time, we get t go fishing and surfing and we have a great life full of love and friendship.

Skeet said he wants to pursue determining if I am telling the truth. I hope he understands that it is up to la paz minsterio to pursue their problems if they choose, not us.

The truth is there are a laundry list of reasons for corrupt police--the most basic is they cant pay their bills on 6000 pesos a month and they need to feed their families. There is no money. Gringos have money. They are hungry. Get it?
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 07:02 PM


Gnukid:
To late! I have already pursued this Story;

This Incident did not Happen as related by you on this Board.

Out of Respect to the Good members of this Board I am deleting this Post.

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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 07:04 PM


Huh?
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 07:07 PM


Ok thanks skeet its all taken care of then. Thanks for all your help.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 07:41 PM
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Skeet has maligned the reputation of people here with no regard for the well being of residents and no factual presentation of his delusions.

To be clear, I made a huge mistake in trusting him to be kind to people here, his actions caused a great deal of stress and trauma and likely have endangered the victims of crimes here in ways far more serious than he is apparently aware.

Its unfortunate what happened over the last few hours under his actions and my trusting of him. We can all learn about culture and people through these posts. I am happy for that at least, to know more about the differences and hopefully I will learn to be less open and less trusting of people such as Skeet who would do more harm than good in serious matters.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 07:48 PM


Kid,

I have had my disagreements with Skeet. That said you can't come on a public Internet site, make those kinds of accusations and not back them up in any way. Either shut up, or put up. Anything else would make you a person of no honor, and someone who should be banned from this website. So, put up or STFU.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 08:34 PM


Ditto, more or less, that. The skeetereman is an old timer here and you are not. Many of us do not agree with much he has said over the years but still afford him a modicum of respect for much that he has said. If nothing less, he is a repository of knowledge about what Baja once was. Until you have demonstrated enough for a relative degree of such respect you would be wise to STFU.



All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 08:41 PM


What..........gnukid has to show his "sources" whereas Skeet gets a free ride with this latest contentions? Based on his having first been in Baja 50 years ago?

I say Skeet needs to come forward with what he has supposedly found out, too, and cite where he got it. It cuts both ways.

Skeets's getting pretty far removed from Baja at this point. The place has changed dramatically in 5 years.................it's much different than the Llano.




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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 08:42 PM


Forget it, Roberto and Skeet are totally loco. Who in the world would go to such lengths to deny a sad incident and complete report which has official stamps, witnesses, exact police officers names, locations, identified victims, odd circumstances. THe cops already have backed down and admitted they had a "misunderstanding." How would those things be made up? How would so much data be available if it was false? You are totally delusional and worse hurtful.

Good for you. If it makes you happy I will not mention anything about crime that we suffer.

I have no interest in playing this game with you and Skeet. This is not a video game. People's well being and lives are at stake. Its not fun I didn't enjoy being part of it. You think I like having guns piointed at me and threats made by crazy cops as often as it happens? Do you really think I would report an incident for any reason other than I witnessed it, was present and I am concerned? I am out. I have zero confidence in Skeet, who should stand up and acknowledge he received tons of factual data, copies and contacts and who knows what he did except exacerbate the problems and traumatize people involved. Scary. Why do you think Mexicans have contempt for Gringos? For exactly this type of nonsense. Believe me, we will never forget what Skeet did to the people involved today. Really something to be ashamed of.
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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 08:48 PM


Where is the DATA for this thread? Can someone point me to the original thread? Was it edited out, creating the confusion?

OK this has been made clear by the compilation of the threads....

[Edited on 1-30-2008 by vgabndo]




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[*] posted on 1-29-2008 at 08:52 PM


Wud up, G?
Why would anyone think Skeet has any credibility after reading any of his posts? Whatever he was or supposedly was, he ain't now.




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