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BAJACAT
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B A J A FLATS.. & BREAK DOWNS
Nomads, would some of you share your stories about flats in baja while wheeling the Peninsula.For me, Im telling you guys this Knocking in wood right
know.for me it's "0" flats,and Im not lying.Here is a picture of my friend, flat.On any given trip something happens to his rigs.(1998 tacoma 4by-2001
silverado 4by)..
1-Coming down La Rumorosa grade he was it by a Ford Bronco(tacoma).
2-broken shaft in Laguna Salada+ one flat(silverado)
3-Another flat in Guadalupe canyon(silverado)
4-Flat coming down on La Rumorosa grade(toyota)
5-Missing bolts on drive shaft on Gonzaga trip.(silverado)
6-broken drive shaft in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
7-two weeks ago truck would not start and had to leave it in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
All this is from 2001-2007,what is the factor in this stories,the way the people drive? condition of the trucks,or just plain bad luck?.
For me only a bend rim from my Palomar canyon trip,rim still been used as we speak
[Edited on 2-4-2008 by BAJACAT]
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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BAJACAT
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PIX #2
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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BAJACAT
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And yes that tire is a little worn out.
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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Osprey
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Cat, I have the oposite kind of luck in Baja. I've had two blowouts -- one on my 75 Jeep, one on my 79 Ford P.U. BOTH IN MY YARD while they were
parked.
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David K
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Looks like one of those BFG tires, famous for its 3 ply sidewall...
I had plenty of flats in Baja... well I used to before switching to Cooper and then Toyo from the BFGs my Toyota came with... Both of my Toyotas had
the BFG Rugged Trail T/As when new... lots of flats (usually after the tread was down 50% from new, however). The Cooper Discoverer STT with 3 ply
sidewalls never had a flat, and now the Toyo Open Country A/T (2 ply siodewall) I have, are so far are flat free.
While riding with Amo Pescar, with brand new BFG All Terrain T/As, we got a sidewall flat... I am not impressed with them... Yet, they remain the #1
most popular Baja tire... However, Robby Gorden has switched from BFG to Toyo for his Trophy Truck... hmmmm!
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Steve&Debby
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Two years ago on a run from San Flippy to Gonzaga we had a flat on my sons WR 450. We found a hypodermic needle in the tire. I've alwys herd dirty
needles are no good ,now I believe it 
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Cat, I have the oposite kind of luck in Baja. I've had two blowouts -- one on my 75 Jeep, one on my 79 Ford P.U. BOTH IN MY YARD while they were
parked. |
Well, besides the rock that bit a hole out of the sidewall of our ORIGINAL tire on the road to Gonzaga, we also had a flat at our home in Baja while
parked.
Pumped it up with our onboard compressor---only llantera in town took out the large nail and repaired the tire---big $45 pesos.
Next day, air going down again---cost another 35 pesos for a leaking value.
We are on our third set of BFG All Terrain and are very happy---- All three sets have given us over 40,000 miles---many of them off road, pulling a
trailer, and with the weight of a camper, and we replace them early.
Fortunately, we have had no breakdowns---scratches and a few dents only
[Edited on 2-4-2008 by jdtrotter]
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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We hardly EVER get flats...Juan says it's because we cruise the dirt roads with only around 20-25 lbs in our tires...most common reason for flats here
is tires with too much air on em that pop on sharp stones and rocks!
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BAJACAT
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David thats what Im running on my Ram,BFG Rugged Trail T/As.Funny story,the guys doing my oil service over,at Firestone,call me out to my
truck,panicking,they had circle,all the sidewalls scraches,with a yellow crayon.!Dude you need tires!,to witch I reply,"no I need more Baja".well to
make it short,they told me that I was going to blow out a tire in the freeway.they don't know what their talking about.
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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TMW
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1-Coming down La Rumorosa grade he was it by a Ford Bronco(tacoma).
2-broken shaft in Laguna Salada+ one flat(silverado)
3-Another flat in Guadalupe canyon(silverado)
4-Flat coming down on La Rumorosa grade(toyota)
5-Missing bolts on drive shaft on Gonzaga trip.(silverado)
6-broken drive shaft in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
7-two weeks ago truck would not start and had to leave it in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
That's a lot of drive shaft problems. Sounds like it's a lifted truck and the drive shaft is not properly aligned.
In 30 years of going to Baja I've had 4 flats, 3 in the same year. 1 Bridgestone in late 80's and the other 3 where with BFG in 2001 or 2002 on the
same trip. LA Bay and El Arco. The BFGs were punctures thru the tread, plug and go on.
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Von
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Same puncture wound on the inside, pre running for a race. Through El Jamau.
Brand new mud terrains, expensive pre running the record last year. Love
that ;such a Baja High......
READY SET.....................
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BAJACAT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
1-Coming down La Rumorosa grade he was it by a Ford Bronco(tacoma).
2-broken shaft in Laguna Salada+ one flat(silverado)
3-Another flat in Guadalupe canyon(silverado)
4-Flat coming down on La Rumorosa grade(toyota)
5-Missing bolts on drive shaft on Gonzaga trip.(silverado)
6-broken drive shaft in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
7-two weeks ago truck would not start and had to leave it in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
That's a lot of drive shaft problems. Sounds like it's a lifted truck and the drive shaft is not properly aligned.
In 30 years of going to Baja I've had 4 flats, 3 in the same year. 1 Bridgestone in late 80's and the other 3 where with BFG in 2001 or 2002 on the
same trip. LA Bay and El Arco. The BFGs were punctures thru the tread, plug and go on. |
TW.he bought it
allready lift it,I agree with you in the shaft problem.
[Edited on 2-4-2008 by BAJACAT]
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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Gadget
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Vehicle prep is everything even when driving just on the pavement. I lay on my creeper and just slowly roll under the rig from front to back with a
good light, just staring. You see things after you have looked for a minute somtimes. Keeping the chassi very clean will also alert you to new leaks
or potential issues. GSB gets a squirt down with degreaser, a good brush where I can and then the pressure washer after every outing.
Flats:
BFGs = 4 total
3 after going off course to extract stuck racer in cactus garden at the 06' 1000. Class 7 left the 2 foot deep rutted course, down an untracked wash
for 3/4 of a mile and drove it up onto a 6 foot round Ocatillo. 2 broken tow straps to get him off and back to the course. Talk about hitting the
wall, these guys had lost it at RM125!!! Cactus garden flated 3 of my BFGs by morning, they looked like Chia pets 
1 while dropping into an arroyo at about 60mph, rear end swung out a little and clipped a sharp rock. New I would have a flat before I hit the rock.
Side wall done.
On Goodyear Wrangler MTRs now via a sponsorship the crew worked out. No flats so far. Super grip in the dirt, going away fast on pavement. The BFGs
will go back on when these are done.
[Edited on 2-5-2008 by Gadget]
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Cypress
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You don't have to go to all the way Baja to abuse your rig.
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rob
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Hi David K!
Well opinions make horse races! I put Cooper Discoveries on my F350 diesel and went through 4 of them in 3 months (two of them in one trip) - and I am
NOT an aggressive driver - it just seemed that the sidewalls had no resistance at all.
That was the trip to Punta la Trinidad (the same trip where Asuncion Shari saved my butt in Guerrero Negro when I hit a low power line). There was
about 15 km of travel down a ROUGH arroyo and the Coopers just seemed to give up!
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
1-Coming down La Rumorosa grade he was it by a Ford Bronco(tacoma).
2-broken shaft in Laguna Salada+ one flat(silverado)
3-Another flat in Guadalupe canyon(silverado)
4-Flat coming down on La Rumorosa grade(toyota)
5-Missing bolts on drive shaft on Gonzaga trip.(silverado)
6-broken drive shaft in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
7-two weeks ago truck would not start and had to leave it in Laguna Hanson(silverado)
That's a lot of drive shaft problems. Sounds like it's a lifted truck and the drive shaft is not properly aligned. |
Sounds like he may call it something other than it is, like Squarecircle calls his RR a Ford and its getting back at him 
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Bernardo
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A nice one on the way to Constitution from La Paz - note the new "grease cap" manufactured from the top of a plastic water bottle.
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Bernardo
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Ah, crap - how do you post pictures? A newie with great pictures - help! Remember, I am 71 years young.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rob
Hi David K!
Well opinions make horse races! I put Cooper Discoveries on my F350 diesel and went through 4 of them in 3 months (two of them in one trip) - and I am
NOT an aggressive driver - it just seemed that the sidewalls had no resistance at all.
That was the trip to Punta la Trinidad (the same trip where Asuncion Shari saved my butt in Guerrero Negro when I hit a low power line). There was
about 15 km of travel down a ROUGH arroyo and the Coopers just seemed to give up! |
There is more than one kind of Cooper Discoverer... mine were the STT model (pictured)... a mud tire with aggressive tread and 3 ply sidewall...
Looked great, but were noisey on the hwy. and not good in sand until down to 10 psi.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
Nomads, would some of you share your stories about flats in baja while wheeling the Peninsula. |
Personally, I have been very fortunate. My only blowouts happened while playing around in the Old Dale Mining Dist. near Joshua Tree. Both tires
were BFGs - one an All-Terrain, the other a Mud-Terrain KM.
On the Pole Line Road - south of the Laguna Salada at the foot of the Sierra Juarez Mountains, I have witnessed just two tire blowouts - a BFG All
Terrain KO took a hit to the sidewall, and let go, and a BFG Mud Terrain KM took a stick through the sidewall. The Mud-Terrain tire was patched (not
recommended) on the sidewall, and the tire was driven to Phoenix, AZ the same day!
On the Baja Grande event - the sand highway near the 7 sisters, there is a boulder patch that the Jeeps were playing on. The pictured Jeep took a
boulder the wrong way, and its BFG Mud-Terrain KM tire lost its shoulder - sort of a tread-separation brought on by the rock acting like a can opener
and cutting the tire right open.
The passenger wasn't fazed through...
OUCH!
As you can tell, the Jeep (6th vehicle from the street), made it and was able to complete the 4WD event w/o further issues...
[Edited on 2-6-2008 by Ken Cooke]
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