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Pescador
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Geez Dennis, sorry that you are so unhappy where you live in Baja Norte. It would seem to me that you really should change cause it is sad that one
has to be so negative about your environment without doing something about it.
I live in Baja most of the year and my only concern at this point is how to avoid things when I get close to Ensenada. I cross at Tecate so avoid
all the nasty part of Tijuana south and the reports have perhaps made me more vigilent but has not really soured me on the whole baja experience.
I read the papers, reports, and postings with interest to try to see developing trends so that I can adjust my environment accordingly. But, I really
do not want to let things get so out of control that I start to become a victim.
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gnukid
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There are comparisons to make between the US and Mexico in their reporting and response which would seem to have a similar goal, that is both a sense
chaos and confusion which reduces our faith in our communities. These are systematic steps being undertaken to bring about a result, that result is
common belief that we as a community can't police ourselves and require militarized civilian emergency demanding we give up on our current form of
government for another, more empowered to control society which is what we really don't want.
I would suggest that its possible that some government diseminated reports are false and some are sensationalized and others are true such as
shootouts though we don't know who is behind them except that all of these are perpetrated to instill fear.
It would behoove us to return to faith in our communities and our way our lives our constitution and the rule of law and do not give in to the
pressures of the false flag crime reports.
Remember, use the tools you have, cameras, friends, whatever they may be to identify the facts in the case of criminal activity and stick to it.
It comes down to everyone one of us, do not ever pay mordida, demand a ticket for, get mad at rogue cops and local creeps who steal. Get real mad and
stand up for yourself. When the bad guys big and small see the people standing up for themselves they will back down and run.
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Dannyrose
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I have a direct observation but is does not differ from Gulls. Gull it's just like you said. My wife and I were down this weekend. My wife is still
there with a friend. The streets were quiet, the restaurant workers were extremely friendly. We even got comped to 2 margaritas at Portofino's after
complementing them for a great New Years Eve dinner. The food once again was wonderful. Stopped at Marcossa's #2 (if i spelled that correctly) and had
a Marlin taco that rocked! Not to mention a cup of shrimp soup thats served with the chip in the beginning that was better then any lobster bisque
I've had. Anyone see the sunset Saturday!!! Dennis, it was red and blazing, is that your hell? cause it looked like heaven to me!
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DENNIS
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If you think that's all there is to Baja, good food and kickass sunsets, tunnel vision serves you well.
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Terry28
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Dennis,
You must have missed your meds this morning...if it's so bad move.... if not say something positive or...........
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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wilderone
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I think the article is irresponsible. It's a personal opinion founded on self-interest. Regardless of the feckless comparatives (murders in New
Orleans, etc.), news of attacks and crimes against tourists is news for anyone who travels there. There are many Mexico travelers who live in
Southern California, thus, it is obvious that such news should be published in So. Cal. newspapers. To keep the information, once known, suppressed,
is also irresponsible and an antithesis to the very purpose of news reporting. The news doesn't require that it be analyzed, twisted to conform to
political agendas, contain biases favoring one faction over another, hypothesize the effects, or dictate an opposing strategy. The news should stand
on its own: News of attacks, news of more police presence, news of economic fallout, etc, etc. As individuals who choose to delve into the issues
that may affect us, we will so peruse the FACTS (from whatever source) and act accordingly.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
Dennis,
You must have missed your meds this morning...if it's so bad move.... if not say something positive or........... |
I lived in Rosarito for two years and I did move.
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Hook
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Well put, wilderone. Give me the news; I'll determine whether it's sensationalized or what not.
Besides, when I see city officials from the corridor being interviewed on TV about how bad it got, I have to believe there is more than a
"conservative centrist" agenda at work................whatever that is!
Conservative................or centrist? Which is it?
I DO think it significant that there appears to have been no major incidents involving tourists since November.
"....I have to admit, it's getting betta,
a little betta. all the time (cant get no worse)......."
[Edited on 2-26-2008 by Hook]
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Sharksbaja
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It's nice to have info at our disposal and it's comforting to know when the reporting is accurate be it good news or bad. Problem is we don't all
interpret or digest this stuff the same, You may be able to sift thru the adjectives and senstionalism but many people take it word for word, over and
over. It's akin to brainwashing imho. At least we don't have censorship of the press like some countries.
I think some of you give way too much credit to the masses of folks that can't/don't comprehend well. Those people have trouble deciphering or seeing
thru the sensationalism. Then, when they see the same message reiterated over and over again, well, they really don't get a complete picture and they
end up voting for Bush.
I wish the media was fair and balanced for their sake. I think we'll all agree that there is a disproportionate amount of humans running around with
blinders on.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Hook
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Sharks, which would you rather be? An informed person who learned through media that it's not wise to drive the area at night or an uninformed person
who did so and paid the price?
If the media and the internet hadn't reported all this, HOW WOULD WE HAVE FOUND OUT????
The Mexican Government never acknowledged it until it became too big to ignore. Local and national media were directly responsible for making it THAT
big.
Was it sensationalized? Not really, IMO. Was it overreported? Probably. But that's the nature of the internet. Every news outlet is a source for every
other outlet. It just multiplies, especially when it's BAD news.
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Terry28
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Dennis,
I an sure Ensenada is soooo much safer...no bad cops there...no mordida, no crime, etc........The problem is and has always been ingrained in Mexico
and no amount of badmouthing the area will fix that...only time and input from the Mexican people will get things changed...IMHO...I have had a home
in Rosarito for over 12 years and am happy to be there. Now that may change if I am robbed,raped and murdered but it hasn't happened yet.
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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805gregg
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Lots of Government troops moving about reminding people of the real keepers of the peace. This should tell you something no goverment troops in my
area.
[Edited on 2-28-2008 by 805gregg]
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The Gull
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Terry28 I agree with you.
Dannyrose I agree with you.
Better stop at this point as I am trying to practice "if you can't say anything nice about ignorant, myopic people, don't say anything at all"
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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DENNIS
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It's amazing from a clinical psychological point of view how buyers remorse can morph into pride of ownership.. You Rosaritoidiotense really have it
together.
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bancoduo
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Especially, if you live in a cardboard shack with tires to hold the roof down and dine at the dump.
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The Gull
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Stalkers
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
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DENNIS
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Well, thank you, Gull. That's the nicest thing you've ever said about us.
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mulegemichael
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Gawd!....you guys really like to snip at each other, don't you?...geez....just an observation; my bride and i passed through ensenada a few days ago
headed north and we STRETCHED to see a turista....nada...not one!...the town is DEAD!...dunno folks...i don't live there...just a thought
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bajaguy
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All of us Ensenada locals do NOT look like touristas!!!!
A photo of my drive-around-town truck.....
[Edited on 3-2-2008 by bajaguy]
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