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sunshine
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Being in the alcohol business, drinking for many is a social event. The discussion of beer and alcohol is something that many people can relate to as
most everyone has a c-cktail now and again. It is kind of a common ground. That would be my guess as to why it would come up in so many posts.
Besides most good stories about baja tend to revolve around a beer or two. An yes I have been guilty of of one hand on the wheel and the other on a
Modelo, but never been intoxicated to point of not being in control, until camp is set up at least.
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dtbushpilot
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There is something about Baja that makes my "medical condition" flare up. I'm not sure if it's the altitude (I live at 5500'), the humidity (very dry
in NW N.M.)or the salt water but after a day or two I find that I am afflicted with "low blood alcohol". It usually takes me a few days to get my
blood back in balance.
All kidding aside, I find that I drink more when I'm in Mexico than when I'm up North. Don't know why but perhaps therapy is indicated...dt
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sunshine
Being in the alcohol business, drinking for many is a social event. The discussion of beer and alcohol is something that many people can relate to as
most everyone has a c-cktail now and again. It is kind of a common ground. That would be my guess as to why it would come up in so many posts.
Besides most good stories about baja tend to revolve around a beer or two. An yes I have been guilty of of one hand on the wheel and the other on a
Modelo, but never been intoxicated to point of not being in control, until camp is set up at least. |
Though you might think you are in control, even one drink impares your response time.... at least be honest about it.
CaboRon
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Ken Bondy
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Most of my Baja trips were by air (over 100 between 1974 and 1993), and I was always careful about the "bottle to throttle" rule. But I saw an
interesting thing with first-timers, to the point that we even gave it a name, "Baja Syndrome". A very high percentage of our passengers, even those
who had been to Baja with us before, tended to just get absolutely ripped the first afternoon/evening/night. I always attributed it to the pressure
relief of finding themselves on a beautiful beach in Baja when they were on the LA freeways only 4-5 hours before. There is a more gradual transition
when you drive down, and I haven't seen as many Baja Syndromes on driving trips. But a lot of our friends were really nursing gigantic hangovers on
the morning of the first full day. ++Ken++
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DENNIS
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You've got it, Ken. The Baja Syndrome. I think it's a form of preasure release when leaving all that stuff in the states and sitting in a place
where one doesn't feel so over-regulated.
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fdt
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Before you hit the road for Satispac get yourself a San Six Pac.
Mas vale borracho conocido que alcoholico anonimo. 
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Though you might think you are in control, even one drink impares your response time.... at least be honest about it.
CaboRon |
This is debatable. A 160 lb male will have a blood alcohol level of approximately 0.04 percent 1 hour after consuming two 12-ounce beers or two other
standard drinks on an empty stomach. There is little, if any, scientific evidence that this level of alcohol is an impairment to driving. I am not
advocating driving and drinking, but the facts do seem to speak for themselves. Anyone know of any further studies that dispute this?
"Although there is a cohesive body of evidence to support the proposition that both psychomotor performance and driving ability can be impaired at low
blood alcohol concentrations (Moskowitz & Robinson, 1988; Starmer, 1989), the scientific basis for legally-prescribed (per se) blood alcohol
concentration limits for drivers is almost entirely epidemiological and derives from several large case-controlled studies (e.g. Borkenstein et al.,
1974 ; Borkenstein, 1985). It is now reasonably clear that the risk of crash-involvement is increased at blood alcohol concentrations above 0.05 g/100
ml and that the blood alcohol concentration of the driver is epidemiologically related to crash-risk. It is much less certain whether any measurable
increase in crash-risk occurs below 0.05 g/100 ml."
I think the world is run by C- students.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
This is debatable. A 160 lb male will have a blood alcohol level of approximately 0.04 percent 1 hour after consuming two 12-ounce beers or two other
standard drinks on an empty stomach. There is little, if any, scientific evidence that this level of alcohol is an impairment to driving. I am not
advocating driving and drinking, but the facts do seem to speak for themselves. Anyone know of any further studies that dispute this?
"Although there is a cohesive body of evidence to support the proposition that both psychomotor performance and driving ability can be impaired at low
blood alcohol concentrations (Moskowitz & Robinson, 1988; Starmer, 1989), the scientific basis for legally-prescribed (per se) blood alcohol
concentration limits for drivers is almost entirely epidemiological and derives from several large case-controlled studies (e.g. Borkenstein et al.,
1974 ; Borkenstein, 1985). It is now reasonably clear that the risk of crash-involvement is increased at blood alcohol concentrations above 0.05 g/100
ml and that the blood alcohol concentration of the driver is epidemiologically related to crash-risk. It is much less certain whether any measurable
increase in crash-risk occurs below 0.05 g/100 ml." |
Jeezo....All I want is a cold Pacifico and you turn it into life in a petri dish.
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Jeezo....All I want is a cold Pacifico and you turn it into life in a petri dish.
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Sorry, just don't like disputing someone's statements without the facts.
Look at the bright side, if you are 160 lbs or more you can probably safely enjoy 2 Pacificos.
[Edited on 3-3-2008 by BMG]
I think the world is run by C- students.
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vandenberg
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Love statistics.
Have been in the bar business all my life and know a few folks whom consumed enough booze in a week to keep 20 folks in a constant state of
inebriation for a month if the statistics were applied.
In other words, different strokes for different folks.
Also know some girls who get silly and giggly after one glass of wine. All in their head. 
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bajaguy
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Originally posted by BMG
This is debatable. A 160 lb male will have a blood alcohol level of approximately 0.04 percent 1 hour after consuming two 12-ounce beers or two other
standard drinks on an empty stomach.
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I suggest that you not consume any Pacifico until you have had at least two fich, er, fish tacos!!!!
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DENNIS
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I love fich.
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
I suggest that you not consume any Pacifico until you have had at least two fich, er, fish tacos!!!!
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Yeth thur!
I think the world is run by C- students.
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Though you might think you are in control, even one drink impares your response time.... at least be honest about it.
CaboRon |
This is debatable. A 160 lb male will have a blood alcohol level of approximately 0.04 percent 1 hour after consuming two 12-ounce beers or two other
standard drinks on an empty stomach. |
I'm in deep doodoo....I need to gain some weight. I thought my buzz was coming from getting turned on to Pacifico.
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Mexitron
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I drink quite a bit more in Baja but curiously enough I rarely get hungover--another part of the Baja Syndrome I think...if I drank like that in the
states I'd be incapacitated!
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vandenberg
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This just in from friends traveling through on their way back up north.
Seems some guy in the Cabo area has a new bar with signs sporting $0.10, yeah a dime, draft beer. When my friends asked the proprietor about it, he
explained that he just won a large lottery and since he doesn't need that much money, decided to share the wealth a little. While enjoying their dime
beer ,they spotted some guys at the end of the bar with nothing in front of them and asking the owner about that, he explained that they were
Canadians who were waiting for "c-cktail hour", with drinks half price.
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Martyman
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Hey 4baja;
I saw you drinking a beer at 7am last time I was down in BOLA. It wasn't that hot in November! Do you drink your beer warm when its cooler?
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Yup, your wrong
| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Let me start by saying that I drink my share. To be totally honest, more than my share.
That said, I have a question. I see countless posts that seem to put drinking beer as one of the major factors in trips down south - morning,
afternoon, evening, driving, not driving, none of these variables seem to make a difference.
Am I wrong, or are the people on this board just a bunch of folks staggering around the peninsula, putting lives at danger on the roads, and (indeed)
going south to be able to do things that would put them in jail north of the border.
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Roberto, you asked a question, answer to your question is "Yes, your wrong"
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Spyderman
| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Let me start by saying that I drink my share. To be totally honest, more than my share.
That said, I have a question. I see countless posts that seem to put drinking beer as one of the major factors in trips down south - morning,
afternoon, evening, driving, not driving, none of these variables seem to make a difference.
Am I wrong, or are the people on this board just a bunch of folks staggering around the peninsula, putting lives at danger on the roads, and (indeed)
going south to be able to do things that would put them in jail north of the border.
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Roberto, you asked a question, answer to your question is "Yes, your wrong" |
Spyderman,
That is not the impression I am getting from reading the replies posted to this thread.... I am tending to agree with Roberto.
CaboRon
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Pompano
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I know a couple in Mulege who really like to tip a few.
When they were married, they registered at the local liquor Store.
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Their motto is: Giving the gift of life is administering CPR to a bottle of Merlot.
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The man told me he has had some talks with the Frangelico monk and often thought he and Mrs Butterworth would make a nice couple.
[Edited on 3-5-2008 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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